Basically, the only question I have is will the dems vote against Johnson again?

Depends. If they’re doing it for giving aid to Ukraine, and keeping the government up, I’d be for keeping Johnson. Until he’s no longer useful.

Well, Hakeem Jeffries will become speaker before the November elections. Ukraine might be getting some aid, which is what I want to see.

I think militarized occupation enforcing two states solution along with a long trial of investigation to put the problematic actors behind bars is long overdue. The settlers, and groups like Hamas both needs to be addressed (in separate manners, but still a loss). And Israel should be prepared to throw the settlers under the bus as they do more harms to the state of Israel.

What’s bad news for the GOP is good news for United States of America and its allies.

First part, yes. Second part, not yet. They still want to appeal to “moderates”.

At this point in time, 2.5%(+/-).5% . Easy to figure out when it’s only 2 parties since 1968 and looking up election results.

By what evidence do you have for that? We can look at vote records and note that Duverger’s Law matches electoral records, and it is based on real world observation of elections. The other one has zero predictive power because it’s not based on anything other than guess work.

One is observed, and the other is guess work. Nice try, anyway.

Other people reading the room is precisely why I am with you in the room now. I’m not doing this to change your mind.

Let’s see. Student debt cleared to some degree. Pay raise for low wage workers. Yes, there were some.

Also, love that you ignored the issue of Duverger’s Law.

Then, explain it if that’s the case.

Did you know that I pointed out issues with your arguments? So, address them.

In context of Biden, it’s to have him on the white house to get some benefits possible, and he is the most realistic option because of Duverger’s Law. Which goes back to my point of there is no good answer as to when was the last time third party has made a huge dent electorally.

Ooh, wow, a party no one heard of, and are you talking about 1919? And this has nothing to do with vote percentage?

Color me shocked and amazed by your argument.

Yeah, if they were leftists, they vote left on downballot and vote for realistic options that is closest to left on general. That means, third parties are out unless ranked choice is a thing.

Sure, try arguing when was the last time third party has made a dent, and by what percentage. Cure my supposed historical illiteracy please.

Note that capitalism is everywhere, and politicians that do not want to change their economic system to socialism are still counted to left for strong support toward welfare, healthcare, etc. Heavily regulated capitalism is left to the center. Do you have an argument against this?

Fucking lulz.

Leftists don’t actually have to be against capitalism as a concept. Some of us do support european-esque capitalism because of easier access to healthcare and education.

And that’s the bare minimum, but the most impactful, and the most realistic. You, the 3rd party voter, can’t even cite when they have ever made a dent in the nation-wide scale, and you very well know that you can’t convince educated leftists to split their vote to give it to Trump. But, do try, and I’ll be laughing at the attempts.

You sure do not have any idea who I voted for beyond Bernie. I always look up candidates and pick the ones with better access to healthcare, education, working environment, etc.

I met with a few that tries to argue that the correct choice is to vote for third party. And, other people called them out on it.

I’m far-left as you come, but, I still vote for the feasible and better option in the general. I always vote for the better in the primary without exception. I voted for Bernie in 2020 primary even if Biden is guaranteed to have the nomination, and voted for Biden.

And my opinion is that Biden is the better of the two in context of Israel. He at least sanctioned settlers, and some days that will include Jenin(?) settlers. Trump won’t do that. And most people that are against Israel has less to do with war at Gaza than settlers and the clowns in Israel government.