but “No atheists in foxholes” ONLY makes sense to religious people
I’m afraid not. I’m not religious at all - and it makes perfect sense to me.
why would an atheist pray to something he/she doesn’t believe in?
It’s very easy to convince yourself that you’ve chosen to believe this or that when life is comfortable. It’s peak individualism - and such delusions fall apart very fast when the trauma starts piling on. You don’t have to believe me - believe the people who wrote the CIA’s torture manuals.
It’s called “regression” - if you were spoon-fed a certain religion as a child you will “regress” to that under extreme duress (amongst other, even worse, things). That’s why they say, “there are no atheists in foxholes.”
Wow this is a stupid take. I was spoon fed Christianity, now I’m agnostic. I’ve experienced plenty of traumatic things and I haven’t found myself praying to God in any of those.
You don’t know me at all, dipshit. Congratulations for being the most insufferable Lemmy user I’ve ran into so far. I feel sorry for people that know you. That has to be traumatic.
I guess it must be “going over my head”, because it makes no sense to me to pray to something that isn’t there, unless you at least think there’s at least a tiny chance there is… aka agnostic.
I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless I thought at least there was the slightest chance it could hear me.
So everything in your life “makes sense”? How did you accomplish that?
I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless
I also wouldn’t recommend praying to anything that comes with an on/off switch… though I am undecided about threatening them with banishment to a landfill.
I never said everything in life makes sense, just that praying to something you don’t think is real doesn’t.
Obviously you believe in some form of higher power, so it makes sense that you would pray to it. But you wouldn’t pray to something you don’t at least think has a chance of existing, why would you think an atheist would?
I’m not “triggered,” I was trying to have a conversation in good faith but obviously that wasn’t your intention. Think whatever you’d like, I was pointing out how your first statement was wrong about that weird “foxhole” thing.
So far, only one self-described atheist have attempted what you claim to have attempted - and, so far, that isn’t you.
I will acknowledge, however, that, so far, you haven’t flown off the handle like a lot of your fellow atheists yet - there’s quite a lot of them really angry that their (alleged) rationality is not as guaranteed as they had assumed. Maybe you deserve a medal - considering that the bar is so damn low.
I was pointing out how your first statement was wrong
but atheism isn’t an invention of the current generations.
Of course it isn’t.
And if you weren’t?
That’s actually a very difficult thing… even someone who was raised in a non-religious home would be exposed to religion (and things worse than religion under our current circumstances) through social osmosis. Soooo… you’d have to find someone that was raised in a society that can be called atheist with a straight face.
None taken.
I’m afraid not. I’m not religious at all - and it makes perfect sense to me.
It’s very easy to convince yourself that you’ve chosen to believe this or that when life is comfortable. It’s peak individualism - and such delusions fall apart very fast when the trauma starts piling on. You don’t have to believe me - believe the people who wrote the CIA’s torture manuals.
It’s called “regression” - if you were spoon-fed a certain religion as a child you will “regress” to that under extreme duress (amongst other, even worse, things). That’s why they say, “there are no atheists in foxholes.”
Wow this is a stupid take. I was spoon fed Christianity, now I’m agnostic. I’ve experienced plenty of traumatic things and I haven’t found myself praying to God in any of those.
Where did you get this is bs?
I guess you missed this part?
I suppose you were too busy convincing yourself that losing at video games qualify as “traumatic…”
You don’t know me at all, dipshit. Congratulations for being the most insufferable Lemmy user I’ve ran into so far. I feel sorry for people that know you. That has to be traumatic.
I agree. And I’d prefer to keep it that way.
Considering how easy it was to trigger you I find your claim of any kind of actual life experience quite dubious.
You make an awful lot of assumptions. Keep being a basement keyboard warrior, loser.
ROFLMAO! Says the person who named themselves “Cold_Brew_Enema!”
So you’re saying you’d pray to things you don’t believe in when confronted with something traumatic?
This is all going straight over your head, isn’t it?
I guess it must be “going over my head”, because it makes no sense to me to pray to something that isn’t there, unless you at least think there’s at least a tiny chance there is… aka agnostic.
I also wouldn’t pray to my toaster unless I thought at least there was the slightest chance it could hear me.
So everything in your life “makes sense”? How did you accomplish that?
I also wouldn’t recommend praying to anything that comes with an on/off switch… though I am undecided about threatening them with banishment to a landfill.
I never said everything in life makes sense, just that praying to something you don’t think is real doesn’t.
Obviously you believe in some form of higher power, so it makes sense that you would pray to it. But you wouldn’t pray to something you don’t at least think has a chance of existing, why would you think an atheist would?
Why is your thinking about this so narrow? What makes you think this is simply about praying?
Btw - this is why triggering atheists is so much more fun than triggering believers… you’re more narrow-minded than they are.
There are lots of “higher powers” around - though I wouldn’t say I believe in any of them. They seem to get on just fine wiothout my belief.
Pray to power? That’s a new one to me.
I’m not “triggered,” I was trying to have a conversation in good faith but obviously that wasn’t your intention. Think whatever you’d like, I was pointing out how your first statement was wrong about that weird “foxhole” thing.
So far, only one self-described atheist have attempted what you claim to have attempted - and, so far, that isn’t you.
I will acknowledge, however, that, so far, you haven’t flown off the handle like a lot of your fellow atheists yet - there’s quite a lot of them really angry that their (alleged) rationality is not as guaranteed as they had assumed. Maybe you deserve a medal - considering that the bar is so damn low.
…and you still haven’t - it still stands.
And if you weren’t? Probably hard to believe for most Americans but atheism isn’t an invention of the current generations.
Of course it isn’t.
That’s actually a very difficult thing… even someone who was raised in a non-religious home would be exposed to religion (and things worse than religion under our current circumstances) through social osmosis. Soooo… you’d have to find someone that was raised in a society that can be called atheist with a straight face.