• taiyang@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    I mean, it doesn’t work but like, I get it. Moreso, after reading the news or watching any TV or talking to certain neighbors, I get the desire to, idk, maybe want some selective breeding. Just make people a teeny tiny bit less… stupid? Gullable? Irrational? If only there was a way. It wouldn’t work, but I get it.

    Obviously it doesn’t quite work that way, is probably immortal and would take an extraordinary long time to even change something as ingrained as all that. Lol

    • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      If you want people to be less stupid or gullable, the answer is founding education programs to teach them scepticism.

      About the irrationality, I think it’s part of what makes us human, biases can be overcome with some knowledge and humility but some things about humans like doing something for no reason or just because it fells good will never dissapear.

      • Wanderer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        IQ is largely genetic.

        Humans aren’t all identical and just different due to environment. Genetics will absolutely contribute to every attribute, positive or negative, and altering the average genetics of a population will absoultely change society.

        • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          The average IQ has been rising ever since the tests were made, the scale has to change so that it marks the current average.

          I don’t think we need to change genetics to get less gullible or stupid people.

    • pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Society also needs stupid (or because of other reasons uneducated) people for the jobs noone else wants to do.

  • Cicraft@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    We already breed animals and plants, why not breed other humans? It’d be cool to live in a world where everyone is a healthy super soldier

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      As for just trying to create healthy humans, we can see that idea failing with crops. We selectively bred the healthiest crops, then everyone wanted that best crop, and now the pests for that crop flourished, meaning they’re usually even more sickly than other crops and we have to constantly keep them alive with pesticides.

      Eugenics in general has many problems, though. The most fundamental problem is that, whatever one might view as an ideal human, is completely arbitrary.

      Even if we ignore obviously existing personal biases, there is no fundamental reason why a muscular man is good, for example. In the next few decades, we might see full automation of manual labor. Then those muscles are irrelevant. And we might see ever hotter temperatures. Then having a bulky body might actively be bad for cooling off.
      Or maybe tomorrow, there’s a massive volcano eruption, which causes oxygen levels to fall and food scarcity. Then a slender man might be best adapted to that situation.

      There’s just a million ways in which our situation can change all the time. And the best strategy for dealing with that is diversity.

      Which is the second fundamental problem with eugenics, it necessarily reduces diversity.

      Diversity is also what prevents singular pests/illnesses from being able to wipe us all.

      But ultimately, diversity is also great, because we live in a society. People with different strengths and weaknesses can work together, usually indirectly by just taking up different jobs and paying each other to perform our respective jobs.
      In particular, a weakness in one field can also push us to develop greater skills in other areas. Had I been able to become a super model, I wouldn’t have pursued an education as fiercely, for example.