• Clent@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Then their signs should read: Stop Breeding Animals.

      Vegans are ultimately advocating for the extinction of farm animals.

      There are a lot of animals that only exist because they are tasty or useful in some other way. Their species would never survive in the specks of wilderness we have left.

      If you can’t finding it naturally roaming Yellowstone or some other national park, it’s reasonable safe to assume that species wouldn’t exist if we didn’t farm them.

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        6 months ago

        Took me a moment to realize this is anti vegan because, sure, we humans have bred some (sub)species that shouldn’t exist in the first place. Farm animals are anatomically dependent on humans and have body proportions that made no sense from a animal welfare perspective nor from surviving autonomously. Their wild counterparts can stay though.

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          It’s not meant to be anti-vegan, it’s the logical conclusion of the statement. Rather than playing with the words just say what you mean.

          Ruminating on it, lead me to think about the biodiversity in animal husbandry and how that would disappear if we all went vegan. Those are side affected I’ve never seen discussed. The downvotes tell me most people prefer comforting lies and would rather avoid second order thinking.

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            6 months ago

            Maybe it’s not discussed because the handful of domesticated animals isn’t a big deal of biodiversity in the first place. It’s not that people aren’t aware of it, they are more concerned with the real loss of biodiversity in nature.

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              6 months ago

              That’s an unsupported assertion.

              Replacing animals with plants is definitely a reduction is diversity. We clone plants. Farmers are not going to replace their dairy farm with a butterfly garden.

              Anyway, this will be my last post on this thread.

              These downvotes are a clear indication that it’s not something this audience wants to discuss.

              I find this to be a common theme with vegans, they are only interested in discussing the benefits and refuse to consider any downsides. But that’s an entirely different topic.