That’s an incredibly reductive oversimplification. The modern state of Israel exists due to the political Zionist movement which began in the 19th C and the sympathy for the Jewish people following Nazi Germany’s eugenicist attempt to wipe them out.
A couple of millennia before that, you had the conflicts of the competing tribes and civilizations in the Fertile Crescent, which resulted in the Jewish diaspora.
Religion has typically been weaponized to justify one group of people taking control of resources and land from another, but it has rarely been the root cause per se.
Yikes didn’t realize breaking a ceasefire to rape, pillage and kill a lot of civilians, including entire family and babies (one through being baked alive) on their holy day was comparable to that.
I feel like this is why the left struggle so hard to rally support. When they unironically call Hamas a freedom fighter group. Literally anyone is free to read up on the group. They are a terrorist group through and through.
And yes religion had a huge influence on them. Just like they do on Israelis.
They, are Muslim. ISIS is Muslim. Israel is a Jewish state ran by Jews. It’s religious crap causing this entire conflict. Some may be more extreme then others but let’s not pretend religion has 0 to do with this conflict.
Israel was formed because Jews were persecuted for being Jewish. They chose Israel for religious and historical reasons.
Whatever man you can keep defending a terrorist organization.
And it was not debunked. And after some googling not really proven to be true either. Just a dead Israeli baby found with possible oven burn marks.
But there are plenty of other instances on they day of babies being slaughtered that we do know exists and other fucked up inhumane shit.
And people like you are the worst. Your complete denial of Hamas atrocities forced people like me to be backed into a corner appearing to defend Israel, when I don’t really want to be defending them either.
I realise there’s a thin line between freedom fighters and terrorists but hamas are very clearly the latter given they only seem to inflame tensions and actively profit from the ongoing conflict. Israel (or at least the current Israeli government) are far right borderline fascists committing an active genocide out of some hysterical need to prevent all future incursions from hamas at the detriment of anyone living in the area. The Palestinian people as always remain ongoing victims to the ensuing whims of these two powers.
It is irrelevant. In the West Bank there is no Hamas and Palestinians still get brutally massacared by israel.
The reason it says one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter is not because freedom fighters use the nicest ways to acquire their freedom. And Hamas’ goal clearly isn’t to exterminate Jewish people worldwide. Unlike groups such as ISIS or israel, Hamas is not interested in expanding their Lebensraum to other countries.
Religion was a bad idea.
Religion has nothing to do with this. Its lebensraum and racism
Religion is the sole reason why Israel even exists and why Muslims hate the Jews.
That’s an incredibly reductive oversimplification. The modern state of Israel exists due to the political Zionist movement which began in the 19th C and the sympathy for the Jewish people following Nazi Germany’s eugenicist attempt to wipe them out.
A couple of millennia before that, you had the conflicts of the competing tribes and civilizations in the Fertile Crescent, which resulted in the Jewish diaspora.
Religion has typically been weaponized to justify one group of people taking control of resources and land from another, but it has rarely been the root cause per se.
Zionists are as Jewish as the Nazis were Christian.
That’s not really true lol.
Would you say that Hamas is as Muslim as Nazis were Christian?
Both groups are doing terrible shit in the name of their religion.
ISIS is as Muslim as the Nazi’s were Christian.
Hamas is more comparable to the Jews fighting back against the Nazi’s in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Yikes didn’t realize breaking a ceasefire to rape, pillage and kill a lot of civilians, including entire family and babies (one through being baked alive) on their holy day was comparable to that.
I feel like this is why the left struggle so hard to rally support. When they unironically call Hamas a freedom fighter group. Literally anyone is free to read up on the group. They are a terrorist group through and through.
And yes religion had a huge influence on them. Just like they do on Israelis.
They, are Muslim. ISIS is Muslim. Israel is a Jewish state ran by Jews. It’s religious crap causing this entire conflict. Some may be more extreme then others but let’s not pretend religion has 0 to do with this conflict.
Israel was formed because Jews were persecuted for being Jewish. They chose Israel for religious and historical reasons.
Man so hardstuck on Hasbara he’s still repeating the baby in oven claim debunked multiple months ago
Whatever man you can keep defending a terrorist organization.
And it was not debunked. And after some googling not really proven to be true either. Just a dead Israeli baby found with possible oven burn marks.
But there are plenty of other instances on they day of babies being slaughtered that we do know exists and other fucked up inhumane shit.
And people like you are the worst. Your complete denial of Hamas atrocities forced people like me to be backed into a corner appearing to defend Israel, when I don’t really want to be defending them either.
Maybe don’t use Israeli propaganda points?
Fuck hummus and fuck Israel
I realise there’s a thin line between freedom fighters and terrorists but hamas are very clearly the latter given they only seem to inflame tensions and actively profit from the ongoing conflict. Israel (or at least the current Israeli government) are far right borderline fascists committing an active genocide out of some hysterical need to prevent all future incursions from hamas at the detriment of anyone living in the area. The Palestinian people as always remain ongoing victims to the ensuing whims of these two powers.
It is irrelevant. In the West Bank there is no Hamas and Palestinians still get brutally massacared by israel.
The reason it says one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter is not because freedom fighters use the nicest ways to acquire their freedom. And Hamas’ goal clearly isn’t to exterminate Jewish people worldwide. Unlike groups such as ISIS or israel, Hamas is not interested in expanding their Lebensraum to other countries.