There are many cultures around the world that are suppressed by majoritarianism. They have to face challenges like forced assimilation, language discrimination and refusal to acknowledgement of their unique identity. In fact, many cultures have been identified by UNESCO, that will soon cease to exist - either that they’re vulnerable, or completely extinct. How do you, as a minority, feel, knowing that your entire identity will cease to exist in a few decades? Do you have a sense of camaraderie towards other minorities from other parts of the world, say, the Ainu people, or the Brahui pastoralist?

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    Dude, french language is being forced. You seem to want to wipe your hands clean of it, but it is being forced.

    I see you didn’t look at my other comment so:

    This part mostly fits:

    … Yes bilinguals *in French and English. I thought that was so obvious that I didn’t say it specifically. And that requires, wait for it, French. [*Actually no, not bilinguals. If you are bilingual in English and Mandarin, you don’t meet the French criteria. Repeat all languages. It’s French that they want and require above all others. But you’re trying to misframe the issue by saying not Francophones unilingual, and saying bilingual (with what I see as you defaulting to include French).]

    This part really fits:

    So you speak French and work in Quebec. Fine. Why do I need French in the prairies? Do you see how this goes? The demand for English is market demand because it’s the dominate language in Canada, the US, UK, and the international language of business and science. The vast majority of demand for French in Canada (outside of Quebec) is an artificial construct forced on the rest of the country. It’s completely artificial. There’s no natural demand or desire. But it’s forced on everyone and on to job requirements. You’re trying to confuse it with all these other things trying to make it sound like ‘both sides’.

    And the new part:

    Congrats on speaking 4 languages. But yes it is hard for many people, and more importantly it’s completely unnecessary. It’d be like requiring high level math for fields completely unrelated to math. And I’d just say math is easy, knowing full well some/many/most can’t do it for reasons. Then when you/someone says I can’t do this math I’d say “cry me a river” because I can do it and benefit from it. (I notice you didn’t comment on learning Ukrainian, likely because it’s so ludicrous that you don’t even entertain it. Well that’s what learning French is to us.)

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      Pauvre.Petit.Coco Si le francais t’était imposé, tu pourrais articuler une phrase dans cette langue. Peux-tu ou est-ce que tu ne sais que te plaindre? T’es pas une personne, t’es une victime.

      Sérieusement, c’est pas si diffiicile d’apprendre une autre langue! Genre 80% de la planète est billingue ou plus, c’est seulement les uniligues anglos qui pleurnichent .

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      You learn French, they learn English, you meet in the middle. I think that’s probably how that was meant to work. Sounds fair to me.

      You seem to lack the ability to change perspective here: You learn a language and so do they. You just seem to be missing the fact that the other side is doing the exact same thing?

      I never knew there was this much drama about the French language in Canada. Really interesting fact on its own.