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  • Yeah, if some psycho comes running to grab my weapon, you have every right to defend yourself

    And if some psycho has brought a weapon to a dangerous area to threaten people with you have every right to defend yourself by attacking them and trying to take their weapon.

    It is possible for situations to exist where both parties believe their life is in danger could claim self defense for killing the other. That is the situation Rittenhouse created here by going somewhere he had no business being with his gun. If any of those people he shot had killed Rittenhouse they could have claimed self defense and it likely would have been successful because their lives were quite literally in danger, evidenced by the fact that he killed them.

    Yes, because they worked at that place and it fucking sucks that people would come to it to burn it,

    I don’t know if this is different in the land where property is king, but I worked in retail and was told “If someone tries to rob you, let them. It’s not worth risking your life for. property can always be replaced.
    So if the correct course of action if someone claims to have a weapon in their pocket is to hand over all the money in the till, how does it make any sense at all to try to stop looting during a riot with a fire extinguisher?

    No, they should not have been looting. Also, he shouldn’t have been there attacking people with a fire extinguisher, what did he think was going to happen? The person punching him was also wrong to do so. It is possible to have situations where everyone is wrong.

    The point is, why was the riot happening? Ignoring the cause (cops freely shooting black people unnecessarily) and focusing on “but but but THE PROPERTY!” to try to distract from the issue at hand really shows people’s values.




  • I don’t know what drama you have with property when the people that were killed were killed because they attacked someone that was armed. So yeah stop whining about that.

    If we could go back to my original post, I was not complaining about the people who got shot, I was pointing out Rittenhouse’s own stated reasons for being there:

    he was at the demonstration to “protect businesses and provide medical assistance.”

    He brought a gun to an area he had no business being in to protect property. With his gun. What did he think he was going to do with it if not shoot people (take lives) to protect property?



  • the shooting of Jacob Blake which was 100% justified as it turned out the dude was abusing his girlfriend and pulled a knife on the police when they tried to arrest him.

    And the legal punishment for that is losing your legs? Cops in the UK take down assailants with knives all the time without paralyzing them for life. If they then had a jury sentence them to have their legs cut off people would call it barbaric, but again, put them in front of an American cop and “they had it coming.”

    I would not hit an old person because they used a fire extinguisher on me

    Old man or no, he was assaulting people with a fire extinguisher and got assaulted in return. Why didn’t he “have it coming”?

    I wouldn’t even fucking be looting and burning a random store to begin with.

    Oh right, because property is the most important thing and the property was in danger. “Won’t somebody please think of the property?!”


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    Nobody is saying all white men are like this, what they are saying that it is only white men who do this.

    Being a white man who is aware of the stereotype, I in no way feel attacked by it. I do feel aware that I need to be careful not to interrupt my colleagues or to mansplain things that I may be less knowledgeable about. This response from me is beneficial to both myself and the people I interact with.



  • What live are people protecting

    From the article:

    The Black Lives Matter (BLM) protest where the shootings took place was held after Jacob Blake, a Black man, was left paralyzed from the waist down after he was shot by a white police officer.

    When the state treats a group of people’s lives as less important than property, people are going to react to that.

    Or by punching an old man in the face that had a fire extinguisher

    I watched the video, the man was using the fire extinguisher on people, how would you respond if someone was using a fire extinguisher on you?





  • Back to your original comment

    before we start losing more people due to your virtue signaling bull crap 😂

    And I made the simple point that having Rittenhouse as a speaker is far louder “virtue signaling bull crap” than anyone calling him a murderer.

    Why do you care so much?

    Says the guy responding with multiple paragraphs.

    you’re just trying to win a dumb internet debate

    No, I’m just making a straight forward point. The fact that you think this is something to “win” really explains a lot.

    Let me simplify it lil bro:

    1. me no likey Rittenhouse but me no care
    2. he involve in mucho famous court case
    3. he so popular and some people, good and bad, want to hear he talk
    4. he be innocent so he no murder no body, he self defensed.
    5. you no likey outcome of case? 2bad so sad. U objectively wrong 🤷‍♀️

    Ya, I’m not going to bother trying to parse any of that.



  • Derek Chauvin was charged and convicted, had he been acquitted of any charges, you bet your ass he would’ve been doing speeches for the alt right group.

    You’re making my point for me. When these people get booked to speak it speaks volumes about the people booking them and the people going to listen to them.

    What if it was about being in one of the most famous cases of all time?

    Then a lawyer, a legal expert of some kind, would be a better choice than the guy sobbing on the stand that apparently didn’t understand “if I go to this place and bring a gun I might end up shooting somebody.”

    You understand the difference between a typical felony charge and the killing of two individuals and wounding another during a civil right protest, right?

    Yup, that’s why if it would be absurd to invite someone to speak for being charged with robbing a store, then it is insane to invite someone to speak for being charged with the killing of two individuals and wounding another.