I checked out at “it’s not like school” but you got me to go back and read, yikes

Learn how to read.

Voting and incremental change are the “easy” parts, building and protecting for yourself and your community, so that you and your loved ones are able to “not let a good crisis go to waste” is the kind of revolutionary pre figuration that we need right now. There will be violence either way we might as well try to use it to change things for the better for more people afterwards and during.

Well you’re still just as wrong and naive as the fundamentalists but at least in the mean time you’re doing the right thing. In 30 years when there’s still no revolution you’ll thank yourself for supporting incremental progress.

Working class doesn’t mean poor,

No, but a lot of upper middle class people are sure happy to exploit the connotation of poverty from the phrase.

People making $30k/yr and people making $300k/yr have nothing in common except they both hate they people making $1m/yr. They don’t belong to the same class. They just have a mutual enemy.

I consider my accusations against you to be very based.

One issue is that socialism means different things depending on who you ask.

You’d go straight to the top of several communities

Ban Tiktok.

Lemmy mods are indefensible. They remove any comment that calls you out rofl.

Easy:

Dear Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod’s boss. There is no such thing as “working class”. It’s a useless distinction. Thank you.

What we need now isn’t time, it’s the courage to swim to one of the corporate overlords’ ships and take what’s ours.

To use a particularly apt phrase, that ship has sailed. There will be no revolution. I don’t know how anyone sane could look at the state of the world and think they a) there’s some revolution on the horizon, and b) it would result in a better world order if it happened.

It’s the leftist version of “it’s okay to poison the planet because the Rapture is coming soon so it doesn’t matter what we do now”. It’s an excuse for apathy and laziness.

There is no revolution coming to save you. We have to save ourselves the difficult way, through voting and incremental steps. Belief in a sudden revolution that will make everything better is childish.

And at the end of the day if things are normal, then you’re losing the messaging battle.

This is it. Facts don’t matter, only perception. We’re in a post-truth era.

Exactly, so the single mom struggling on $12k/yr and the corporate executive making $5 million/yr are both “working class”. It’s such a broad category it’s useless, except to provide cover for people making a lot of money who want to pretend they’re poor.

Nobody’s baling any water on this sinking ship.

Gee, I wonder why - -

Our only choice for real survival is to not bail water

Oh, it’s because in this analogy, you’re literally too stupid to survive.

What are they supposed to do? They improved the economy. People refuse to believe it.

I’ll give you a moment to rage.

Okay, now that’s done, consider it from their perspective. The data tells them they have succeeded. People refuse to believe it. What are they supposed to do? Succeed again? People will just reject it again.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they just did a heel turn and said, welp, guess who isn’t a bunch of ungrateful fucks? Wealthy people. Tax cuts ahoy! Found a new voter base!

Eyes and ears can be subject to propaganda.

Nobody in my circles

Imo this is the heart of the problem. The economy is getting better for poor people. But middle class people complain the loudest. And middle class people don’t interact with poor people, so they don’t see any improvement.

I think this is where Biden messed up. Helping the poor is the right thing to do, but politicians have ignored the poor for generations for a reason: the middle class is what wins or loses elections. You need to keep the middle class happy. The middle class owns the social media airwaves. The poor have no voice.

I live in San Francisco. Things are so expensive here $100k/yr is considered “low income” and qualifies you for government assistance programs.

I think the problem is lemmy is so privileged that none of you have ever known any actual poor people, which is the group benefiting most from Bidens economy. The middle class (which is what all you people are, no you’re not “working class”, that’s not a thing, you’re middle class) is about the same. The upper class is slightly worse off, but they started so far ahead it’s difficult to tell that without looking at the stats.

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