Far Right kooks and being a sexpest, name a worse duo

Whatever, you brainwashed Trump bootlicker 🤣

Right? lol

The US bolsters NATO, Taiwan, South Korea, and the rest of our allies, Trump is an extreme isolationist, pro-Putinist, Pro Kim Jong Un, and despite his BS, Pro Xi, if he pulls out of NATO, flips on all of our alliances it will break the current world order, and bolster a world order of fascist tyrants. Trump is also talking about some pretty extreme measures at home, and I doubt we’ll all just take it, loyalties are going to he divided, we’re weak AF right now and primed for a collapse, which will also upset the current world order. Also people may not like the idea of world orders, but what we have is much better than the alternative that guys like Trump, Putin, and others offer.

The reason why we’ll weather things better under Biden is that he’s competent, surrounds himself with fairly competent people, he’s not an isolationist, and MAGA/GOP are one presidential loss from total collapse, especially now with the Trump’s in full control of GOP finances.

So yeah, that’s why.

DeSantis: “fuck people my friends gotta stay rich and get richer!”

Well more likely when the courts reverse this, if they reverse this.

So let me get this straight, if I, living in Florida, ever found a fire ant free spot to lay down and relax in a park, I’ll be harassed by cops now? Or is this just for the “shittier” neighborhoods? What about people at the beach?

The current governor and Florida legislature are a bunch of mean spirited bigoted buffoons.

Russia Rand earning his rubles

There’s just too many misinformed hot heads saying and doing dumb shit while being herded by malicious puppet masters with their own nefarious agendas, and if Trump wins in November each of those dominoes will start tumbling as things degrade. I hope we all see reason but those that are sucked into the various disinformation and propaganda campaigns are basically forming new religions around the objects of those misinformation and propaganda campaigns, and each of those new religions have counter-religions that those same misinformation and propaganda purveyors have also helped to foster and foment, just a really ugly problem to tackle regardless of if things go well in the future.

You’re acting like we haven’t been in the opening stages of WWIII since Russia invaded Ukraine…back in 2014! The deeper invasion into Ukraine and Israel v Gaza are just more steps in that direction, and if America devolves into Civil War the whole world is going to be settling past grievances, and WWIII will be on like Donkey Kong. While I hope I’m wrong, things could definitely go wrong for all of us, especially with who takes or keeps the American Presidency in November.

I’ve seen it said where Musk and Thiel and the other Internet billionaires are the modern robber barons, but one thing to note, they’re almost all “Libertarian”, they are almost all trying to force some kind of ideology onto us, especially Thiel, since he is completely intertwined with the MAGA movement and the GOP, and they have no goal of contributing to making our country better in the way that Rockefeller, Carnegie, and others of the Gilded Age did.

So while I agree with the spirit of this CS Lewis quote, I believe it is aging like milk.

Here’s a good article I found that highlights the contrasts between the old robber barons vs the new:

https://online.maryville.edu/business-degrees/americas-gilded-age/

I’m obviously not talking about the ones who would want to kill us, but not that it would matter to you or get past your smugness, you’re almost as bad as bad as one of those Christian Nationalists we’re talking about here, you just don’t have the power that they do over us, but if you ever did boy would that slope get really slippery.

I get it dude, growing up Christian fucked you up mentally, but this topic, just like the world/reality isn’t black and white, there are greys, and that area of grey is usually where innocent people are, people who may be into Jesus or Allah, or whatever but don’t want to force their religion on others, your paranoid view isn’t in line with the world at large. Like is Reverend Raphael Warnock trying to kill us too? There’s quite a few LGBTQ religious folks too that aren’t trying to force their views on anyone, are they trying to kill us too? Because there’s many like them who are our allies in this struggle against white Christian Nationalism.

But hey who needs enemies when we have friends like yourself, amirite my dude?

In Kermit’s voice: “It’s Tuesday my friends”

Listen, I get what you’re saying, as douchey as you are saying it, but that still doesn’t discount my point that there are good people who do believe in your “Christ fable” and attacking their beliefs doesn’t win us anything at all. I’m more than comfortable letting the theists who are legitimately good people who believe in their religion, or even their own version of it, keep their beliefs, because we need allies, and attitudes like yours are just going to turn people against us and get us put into the camps that much faster, especially when douchebags like yourself alienate people and leave us with no allies.

Also if you want to change people maybe start with getting rid of that chip on your shoulder, because with the way you’re coming across now all you’re doing is further entrenching people in their beliefs. If you know you suck or that you’re making people not like you then make that change in yourself first before asking someone else to make a change because you think they should, just starting shit on the Internet helps nobody, not even yourself.

First of all stop being an edgy condescending prick with your “the Christ fable” bullshit, you’re talking with another atheist, so how about you back your edgy bullshit down a notch, you’re being a disrespectful embarrassment to the rest of us.

Obviously it’s not my religion, so I don’t have shit to quote about it, but I do know plenty of theists that do act accordingly and I know plenty of theists who don’t, and the MAGAs are among those that do not.

As for what I’m talking about when I say “act accordingly” I’m talking about the specific tenants that are commonly thought of when people talk about Jesus’s teachings, you can fault the rest of Abrahamic teachings, but love thy neighbor and all of the other stuff along that line of thinking is what I’m talking about.

Either way, if your intent here is to be pendantic and hyperbolic, I don’t have time or patience for your bullshit, if your intent is to try to “bible-Nazi” me into submission, congratulations, you win because I couldn’t quote the bible anymore than any of these MAGA idiots could, nor do i care to.

Well for one they certainly aren’t abiding by the teachings of Jesus, which is why we joke about conservatives worshipping Supply-Side Jesus (aka Ronnie Reagan).

Now this doesn’t apply to all Christians, there are plenty of folks who do abide by what Jesus was teaching, but these MAGA cultists who preach and flock to the so called “Prosperity Gospel” just preach selfishness, avarice, bigotry, seem to be only interested in power and control over others.

The article cites COVID as part of the reason the world is going fash, but it’s funny how the antivaxx/mask crowd is like “yes let’s go with the fascists, because they never force us to do things we don’t want to do” yet the moment the fash decide it’s time for everyone to vaxx and mask anybody who won’t will get straight up murdered.

Bogus!

(Loved this new one, thx, lol)

Nah it goes back much further than the 80’s, when we’re on the topic of the age of American Christian Nationalism I like to break out the only Barry Goldwater quotes I know, the first of which was said in the 60’s:

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.

Another banger:

I must make it clear that I don’t condemn these groups for what they believe. I happen to share many of the values emphasized by these organizations. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.” … This unrelenting obsession with a particular goal destroys the perspective of many decent people. They have become easy prey to manipulation and misjudgment.

Yet another prophetic quote:

There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.

Another one:

The specter of single-issue religious groups is growing over our land. … One of the great strengths of our political system always has been our tendency to keep religious issues in the background. By maintaining the separation of church and state, the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars.

Yet another accurate one:

Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen. Equality, rightly understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#:~:text=Tolerance in the face of,of freedom is no vice.

Nah Al Qaida would be the proud boys or one of their other terrorist groups, this group is more the American Taliban, or let’s call it what it really is, The Sons of Jacob/Gilead.