Oh my! Why not Takei?

Initially no. But post Friedman and Reagan, absolutely.

The stock market is pure speculation and hype. There’s no science or method to it. It’s straight up gambling. Some people are better at it than others. But it’s still gambling. Not to mention, I’m sure there are some foreign interests involved helping to push it.

Realistically we should stop funding them in general. But it’s become a great way for congressmen to get an unofficial pay bump. They vote to send money etc to Israel. Then Israel uses that money to “lobby” them.

Or seat fillers.

One might think that Chinese authorities, having quashed the pro-democracy protests that erupted in 2019, would ease up. After all, they’ve shuttered all free media, neutered judicial independence, destroyed civil society and suppressed all political opposition. But since last year, the Chinese government has ramped up its effort to snuff out Hong Kong’s autonomy and Hong Kongers’ rights, even

Such tolerance! Much acceptance! Granted it is a complex and nuanced situation. But squash, is that something tolerant groups do?

OP delivers. Though I would quibble that really describes ml more than it does straight up Marxists. Since Marx himself did speak of evolution. It is definitely a pointed criticism of the revolutionary kind we’re still dealing with today.

Absolutely. Huge difference between hate speech existing. And funneling a firehose of it at someone to keep them engaged. It’s not clear how this will shake out. But I doubt it will be the end of free speech. If it exists and you actively seek it out that’s something else.

Austrian style public housing would be a huge win. But such a needle to the speculative housing bubble won’t be allowed. Because a few wealthy people would take a big hit from it. The vast majority of us will have to continue to take a beating until morale improves.

To be fair, Germany wasn’t the only one to learn the wrong lesson from that episode. Israel and vast swaths of the western world did as well. Not sure what it’s going to take for them to learn the right lesson if ever. But it will sadly be horrific again. I’m sure. Already is really.

Someone should tell Hong Kong. I’m sure that will make them feel much better. Considering everything that’s been happening to them lately.

And I’ll give you this much. Liberals disingenuously use ml as their main foil against any sort of leftism/socialism. To the point it seems to many uneducated people like ml might actually be the left as you claim. It’s bs, there are lots of other types of leftists. But this is part of the problem with many ml. Denying and alienating all other leftists. And everyone else with the no true leftist schtick. That and the oppressive totalitarianism.

It was a rhetorical question. It didn’t require an answer. I can see what instance you’re from. And even what instance this is posted to. And I know that even by saying the T word. Even though I refrain from using it personally. Only using it as others would slur you. Because you use liberal as such. All in furtherance of trying to point out the bad faith and hypocrisy on display.

I’m 50, from the US. Raised in a traditionally liberal family. Goth since the 80s, and absolutely a black sheep. I’ll criticize liberals all day every day when they deserve it. No love for them here. I got nothing to hide. And frankly who you’re close to. That’s a red herring. You will almost never find someone who attacks ml power structures on countries more often and more viciously than people formerly from them.

Respectfully, I get that you have a lot of people disingenuously attacking your ideology as much as you do theirs. But people can and do have valid criticisms and problems with it. Despite being generally down for Marxism. I don’t see any reason for anyone outside of my machine shop to own the means of production there. Only people from the shop should. Not some Baker who will never set foot in it. Not some politician in some politburo thousands of miles away.

Frankly we have huge issues here with not having enough parties actually able to represent people. I don’t see how having less parties is going to fix that. Nor do I see the benefit of having a party in charge that would seek to jail me for life, possibly kill me, or brainwash me for dissenting with the state. There is no re-education. Only education and brainwashing. I will gladly take people ignoring me or looking at me incredulously over that sort of s*** any day.

Ideologically narrow? Have you been to lemmy.ml‽

I’m not going to say liberals don’t go there to shitpost like ML do here. But the admins on world haven’t been summarily banning people for “tanky shit” like the ML admins have been banning for “liberal shit”. The hypocrisy of your critique is why they rightfully call out those from there. You. Making them.

To be clear, I agree that world trends centrist to right. But as an anarcho communist anti Leninist I feel much more welcome here than ML. Though there definitely is nothing more on brand than ml hypocritically criticizing liberals and liberals hypocritically criticizing ml.

Same here. It’s a long road. And unfortunately ml and tankies specifically have set us back on it quite a bit. But the evolution Karl Marx originally spoke about is absolutely worth continuing to pursue.

While I would say that graph is more correct than the two-dimensional ones, many of us are fed in the west. (As a social libertarian/anarcho communist) I make the point that I don’t believe authoritarians actually qualify significantly for any form of left or right. They are all about their authority primarily and doing what they wish to do. They will resort to any rhetoric or means to achieve their goals they think will serve them. Whether it is left or right.

Case in point Hitler, who is closely associated with fascism which is considered nominally right-wing. Absolutely aped the terminology and rhetoric of early 20th century socialism. Till it didn’t serve him anymore. China who is more or less The Golden child of ml activists is more state capitalist than they are State communist. Because it suits those in power.

The graph more accurately might look like a deformed Dorito. Authoritarians being fluid and centrist. Not committed to being left or right. On the right side gradually sloping down through libertarians into capitalists/liberals on the far right. Somewhere neutral between authoritarian and actual libertarian. But the more true libertarian you trend the more left you absolutely trend. That’s for sure.

This is the answer. Philanthropy is great and all. But how awesome would it be if philanthropy wasn’t needed. And who tends to make philanthropy necessary? The wealthy and billionaires taking far more than their share.

Yep, authoritarianism and imperialism is wrong left or right. The United States has a horrible track record on this front it’s true. But they’ll lose their shit when you state a simple fact like ML nations are generally just as bad. Russia basically invaded and forcefully annexed many nations post WWII. Tried to invade Afghanistan. Imprisoned and slaughtered millions in Siberian prisons to this very day even. All for simple dissent. Nivalny anyone? China isn’t really any better either.

They usually break into a sputtering revelry of “But imperialists and the west did X”. Which you can easily tear apart with a simple “And?”. Because it doesn’t justify them doing it.

No, it is not debatable. He literally invaded. If he was justified in invading Crimea then the west and the United States in particular has basically been kinda justified in every action they’ve taken against every ml country/revolution ever. Either it’s bullshit for both or it’s okay for both.

And yeah it was literal propaganda. Much like the red scare BS perpetuated in the US since the late 40s. It’s not BS propaganda because it disagreed with my world views. You only prove my point by making that accusation. You have no idea what my world views are. You’re simply getting emotional and defensive because yours are fairly obvious and I impuned them. But if you want to know know I’m pragmatically libertarian Marxist/ anarcho communist. So even though I agree with ml on a number of economic issues, I generally find them as distasteful as fascist because of their social policy.

100%. Like how many conservatives in America assume everyone else does or wants the horrible things they want to do. So that basically all of their accusations end up being projection and confessions. There is a not insignificant number in Russia that believes that America is just as dysfunctional as they are. And at Western criticism is hypocritical. They have a point to a small extent. But they are in many ways a bit worse off. Though I may not be able to say that next year.

That and there are unfortunately and very sadly a number of not insignificant open source projects that have a significant communities there. Though it might be better to rip the Band-Aid off now than to continue to let it fester and grow.