NoneOfUrBusiness

Adding to what the other guy said, I’m theorizing but it could be because they want Netanyahu to fail. Israel wants Republicans in office so they can stop pretending to pretend to follow international law.

Very much yes. The US’s proposal was actually worse than nothing. There’s a reason Hamas has been demanding a permanent ceasefire before they turn over any more hostages. There’s also a reason Algeria voted no.

I think y’all are missing the elephant in the room here. This is a resolution that demands Hamas hand over all their hostages for a temporary ceasefire, with no mention of the 3000+ hostages Israel still holds.

My issue is that technically the only reason their bombing is because of the hostages and perhaps if they release the hostages peace talks can begin.

This might work somewhere else, but not with Israel. Hamas isn’t good, but they’re for better or worse one of the organizations with the most experience at negotiating with Israel and getting actual results (small as they may be). And Hamas knows there’s no way in hell Israel would just quietly leave after being handed over all the Palestinian side’s leverage when they’ve been very clear they want to re"settle" Gaza and rule it like (or worse than) they rule the West Bank.

BTW I’m relying on reporting so if anyone can find the whole thing please link it.

An immediate temporary ceasefire.

I get the same feeling too. Like they’re throwing a tantrum and expecting reality to bend to their wills (which has been Israel’s modus operandi for the last… century?)

Exactly, and that was a disaster in every sense of the word. Which is why Hamas is refusing the current offer (not like Israel likes it very much either), because the promise that “we’ll start with a temporary ceasefire and turn it into something more enduring” was made before in November and in the end Hamas lost half their hostages for a whole lot of nothing. Even a random guy watching from the sidelines like me can tell; even if the 6-week ceasefire succeeds and becomes permanent, it’ll come at the cost of Israel occupying Gaza, or at least half of it, and that’s assuming it succeeds and Israel doesn’t continue doing their thing in six weeks.

PS: I don’t remember when it was either, could’ve been December.

“Longer” will these idiots never learn? Hamas has been very clear about their demands.

Honestly I want someone to actually go to court on this (hopefully someone rich so they can afford the lawyers) because I really want the UK to officially acknowledge that Palestinians are second class citizens in Israel.

Look, even if your logic held, even if these people were all Hamas fighters, this treatment of prisoners of war is a war crime and violation of the Geneva convention.

Better nothing than worse than nothing. There’s a reason the ICC is criticized as a neocolonialist tool for the West and the last thing anyone should be doing is prove that right.

That ignores that Hamas is, messed up as it is, one of the few things preventing Israel from turning Gaza into a wasteland and then Lebensraum (which they’re already doing, but you can probably imagine that it would be going a lot faster if there was nobody to resist). You take away however many of Hamas’s numbers you can provably convict for war crimes (I’d wager the number is a lot less than most would expect, but that aside), and Palestinian resistance suffers greatly as a result. Israel takes the opportunity to oppress Palestinians even more, and those Palestinians are rightly convinced that the international community is an enemy just like Israel, only hiding behind a layer of hypocrisy that they call justice.

The only environment where war criminals in Hamas can be convicted is after Palestine has its own state, and with Israel in tow. Selective justice is oppression, not justice.

Only if Netanyahu and his ilk go with them.

That would be much more compelling, except for the fact that Haiti was poor and unstable even before France imposed the debt,

Haiti didn’t exist before France’s debt AFAIK.