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Cake day: July 7th, 2023

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  • I totally hear you and respect your decision. That said I think very few of these decisions are as binary as it seems when presented by authorities:

    • Not every cave is a bat habitat for instance - so does it make sense to blanket close all those caves?
    • What about caves where WNS has clearly arrived and wiped out the population. Should the cave remain closed 15-20 years after?
    • Could we explore mandatory decontamination procedures / quarantine time for visitors between caves (being able to go to even one cave a year would have been infinitely better than never).

  • I think this is an excellent question to put out loud. I’m sorry someone downvoted you but it really is worth asking and thinking about. To be clear I am not saying that I think the answer is “yes.” But this sort of thing isn’t without precedent.

    Story time: I used to be a very avid cave explorer and I enjoyed it more than just about anything. Caving is a tough sport to do though because many caves are on private property and the landowners often refuse access. So a lot of caving is done on national forest/park land. Around 2006, an invasive species of fungus arrived in the USA from Europe. This fungus infected multiple species of bats with a high mortality rate but didn’t affect humans (White Nose Syndrome is the disease name). Over the next few years the spread of disease was well documented, predominantly along the known migratory routes of the affected species.

    In reaction, the National Parks and National Forest managers started closing off access to caves on public land, as a ‘precaution.’ Caving as a sport essentially became nearly impossible for most people overnight. This isn’t a mainstream, popular activity like mountain biking so nobody outside of cavers gave a shit and there wasn’t much of an uproar and the policy stood. The national park where I spent most of my time still has all caves closed to recreational caving.

    So the people who manage these public lands absolutely do ask the question of when animal lives outweigh human use and I think that publicly asking those questions is a good way to make sure we don’t have the decision made for us without having a chance to weigh in.

    I really miss caving. /rant