And by not voting you’re ensuring that positive change will have a much harder time occuring.
Liberals and moderates by not materially compromising with leftists and progressives are ensuring that positive change has and will continue to have a much harder time occurring.
Your judgement cuts both ways you know.
Then it should be easy for liberals and moderates to compromise with leftists and progressives.
It bears mentioning why. Liberals and moderates are holding us back from addressing fascism.
What exactly is “Democratic” about the Democratic party?
“We’re the Democrats we can’t possibly be responsible for any of this frustration and anger. Also have you heard those young people talking about workers rights and not supporting genocide? Ah to be young and naive.”
No. I’m not going to continue to reward moderates and liberals for being inflexible. If they’re not willing to do it now they’re never going to be and fascism isn’t just a possibility it’s a guarantee. Let’s get it overwith.
I sure would love to see some some of these memes leveling criticisms at moderates and liberals for being inflexible.
Agreed. And if we look even a decade into the future what happens when leftists and progressives voters suddenly start dominating primaries? Are moderates and liberals going to show up in the general elections then? I think we all know the answer.
Fascism isn’t a possibility, it’s a guarantee and it will be moderates and liberals who are to blame.
I’ll be voting but it won’t be for Biden or Trump. If you want me to vote for him then figure out how to make him listen to the people he’s depending on to get elected.
It has no chance of becoming a reality without the help of moderates and liberals who have made it very clear they would rather lose to MAGA than compromise with leftists and progressives.
People have yet to acknowledge the first implications of this. If we believe the numbers of progressives and leftists are growing there will come a time when we begin winning primaries but will lose general elections consistently because moderates and liberals suddenly won’t “vote blue no matter who”. Which means fascism isn’t just a possibility, it’s guaranteed.
If moderates and liberals don’t make different choices there’s nothing we can do.
That cuts both ways. We don’t believe Biden along with his moderate and liberal voters are taking the threat of Trump seriously when they refuse to compromise with leftists and progressives they’re depending on for votes. If you believe Trump is half as dangerous as you say he is then cutting off weapon shipments is a bargain. Refusing to block strikes is a bargain. Pick a lane.
And in the mean time I will continue to point out Democrats have fucked around far too long on this. Stop saying it’s “almost” done when you have no clue when it will actually happen. Stop celebrating fucking sound bytes.
Still waiting for an answer.
That’s a poor attitude.
Of course. Biden will be too busy blocking the next rail strike in 2025 to care about what progressives and leftists think about Israel.
Republicanism will destroy freedom if they continue to win unchecked.
Then the people who would refuse to vote for Biden in 2024 if he cuts off weapon shipments need to think long and hard which one is more important to them.
The crazy part to me is how there’s all this focus on the obligations of progressives and leftists to compromise while ignoring the supposed reason why. If Biden would lose support for cutting off weapon shipments that means there are people who voted for Biden in 2020 but refuse to do so in 2024 because they want to support genocide.
Those are the people who deserve the lectures, shame and endless repetition of the “vote blue no matter who” mantra. Those people are not holding up their end of the bargain. They demand compromise yet yield nothing in return. While whining when Republicans do the exact same shit.
We all know what generation and ethnicity I’m talking about.
Don’t forget that bipartisian effort to block the rail strike that flew through the senate with 80 fucking votes.
Then what do you mean by “almost”? It’s “almost” done but it could take another fucking 12 years?
Give me an example of liberals and moderates making a material compromise with leftists and progressives during Biden’s term. Show me any time they have sacrificed a policy position in order to get the votes of progressives and leftists.