Yeah we’re talking about different kinds of software. I’m mainly talking about CLI software and it seems like I didn’t notice that Jetbrains killed Appcode…

Oh I absolutely agree that it’s really bad, but for most (non-ios) things you Don have to use it?

Why would XCode be a problem? But I fully understand that for FOSS projects - especially without easy&cheap Mac CI solutions you’re back in the 90s of manual testing etc…

Yeah and you can even have a Linux like experience with nix.

But it’s a lot like Linux except when it isn’t… There’s a lot of little differences. And things like cross compiling from MacOs to non-Mach targets really sucks because it seems like often people do not really maintain such a usecase.