LLMs are solving MCAT, the bar test, SAT etc like they’re nothing. At this point their performance is super human. However they’ll often trip on super simple common sense questions, they’ll struggle with creative thinking.

Is this literally proof that standard tests are not a good measure of intelligence?

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    Disagree. We’re very good at using words to convey ideas. There’s no reason to believe that we speak much too fast to be properly reflecting on what we say—the speed with which we speak speaks to our proficiency with language, not a lack thereof. Many people do speak without reflecting on what they say, but to reduce all human speech down to that? Downright silly. I frequently spend seconds at a time looking for a word that has the exact meaning that will help to convey the thought that I’m trying to communicate. Yesterday, for example, I spent a whole 15 seconds or so trying to remember the word exacerbate.

    An LLM is extremely good at stringing together stock words and phrases that make it sound like it’s conveying an idea, but it will never stop to think about the definition of a word that best conveys a real idea. This is the third draft of this comment. I’ve yet to see an LLM write, rewrite, then rewrite again it’s output.

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      Kinda the same thing though. You spent time finding the right auto-complete in your head. You weighed the words that fit the sentence you’d constructed in order to find the one most frequently encountered in conversations or documents that include specific related words. We’re much more sophisticated at this process, but our whole linguistic paradigm isn’t fundamentally very different from good auto-complete.

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      I’ve yet to see an LLM write, rewrite, then rewrite again it’s output.

      It’s because we (ML peeps) literally prevent them from deleting their own ouput. It’d be like if we stuck you in a room, and only let you interact with the outside world using a keyboard that has no backspace.

      Seriously, try it. Try writing your reply without using the delete button, or backspace, or the arrow keys, or the mouse. See how much better you do than an LLM.

      It’s hard! To say that an LLM is not capable of thought just because it makes mistakes sometimes is to ignore the immense difficulty of the problem we’re asking it to solve.

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        To me it isn’t just the lack of an ability to delete it’s own inputs, I mean outputs, it’s the fact that they work by little more than pattern recognition. Contrast that with humans, who use pattern recognition as well as an understanding of their own ideas to find the words they want to use.

        Man, it is super hard writing without hitting backspace or rewriting anything. Autocorrect helped a ton, but I hate the way this comment looks lmao

        This isn’t to say that I don’t think a neural network can be conscious, or self aware, it’s just that I’m unconvinced that they can right now. That is, that they can be. I’m gonna start hitting backspace again after this paragraph

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          That was brilliant, thanks for actually giving it a try :D

          It’s easy for me to get pedantic about minor details, so I should shut up and mention that I see what you mean and agree with the big picture. It’s not there yet and may someday be.

          Thanks again, stranger! You made my day. Keep on being awesome