• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    lt. And at this point, what Israel has been doing for a really long time is starving and murdering Palestinian people

    They have been dismantling Hamas which I fully support.

    • TheFriar@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      If you really liked the idea of eliminating, say, gangs in the US. And I did that by carpet bombing all of LA — or, shit, even if I just limited it to south central—would you still support me? What if, as I did that, I was shooting families that I’ve trapped in south central, that have nothing to do with gangs, would you still support me then? What if I deliberately withheld food and water, medical supplies, and what if I and the entire apparatus was talking about those families as if, “well, they live there. And it’s a gang stronghold, so they are complicit, they’re animals, and they deserve to be shot like sick dogs.” Would you still support me?

      But even ignoring alllll of that inconsistent logic, the most outrageous is the idea that this campaign is “dismantling Hamas.” That’s not the case. They’re mostly killing children and non-combatants. Literally 60% of the victims are civilians. Not to mention, this campaign is not eliminating Hamas. it’s actually Increasing support. Because of fuckin course it is. When your family is being killed and your neighborhood is being bombed out of existence and you’re being herded and slaughtered, you’re going to support whatever is fighting against the force that is doing all of that.

      I don’t particularly like Hamas either. They’re a right wing religious extremist group. But Israel has actually made me see them entirely differently now. Because they are now freedom fighters against a genocidal, occupying, settling force. How anyone can see it differently that doesn’t actively think of the residents of Gaza as less than human, like I’ve seen countless IDF soldiers expressing, is just baffling to me.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        Dude, that is a long response when you could have just said you don’t mind the genocide of the Jews. That is what Hamas wants and the Palestinian people voted them in power. Since their goal is genocide, you seem ok with that and I’m not. As such I don’t see having a respectful conversation with someone who supports genocide against the Jews.

        • JustZ@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Finally someone with a brain in their head.

          Hamas is wildly popular within its territory.

          Terrorists don’t get to have a state.

          Ergo, Gaza is not a state.

          • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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            8 months ago

            Terrorists don’t get to have a state.

            insurgency works. ask Vietnam, Afghanistan, or even the USA. all resisted imperial power through asymmetric warfare. terrorists most definitely get statehood.

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                  8 months ago

                  No. Terrorism is when you destabilise the feeling of safety somewhere by attacking civilians

                  • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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                    8 months ago

                    people are responsible for their own emotions. the only reasonable definition of terrorism is activity that the existing political status quo does not approve. that’s it. it doesn’t need to attack someone. it doesn’t need to be violent. the Boston tea party was terrorism as surely as the assassination of the arch duke.