• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Big ups to the Jews speaking out against israel trying to abuse their name to commit Genocide. Take their “anti semitism” shield away.

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      8 months ago

      Am I crazy or have I not seen most of the Jewish population speaking out against what the Israeli government is doing? Isn’t it something like an 85% disapproval rate of their government of Israeli citizens too? This is what is making me confused with a lot of the attacks I’ve seen on the Jewish population of the world, it seems they’re much more against the governments actions than I’ve been reading Palestinian peoples views of Hamas.

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        8 months ago

        Netanyahu is deeply unpopular in Israel for other reasons. That doesn’t translate into more support for Palestinians within Israel.

        As for Palestinian support for Hamas or the actions of Hamas, Palestinians cannot be clearer, given the circumstances under which they find themselves Hamas represents the resistance to Israeli occupation, apartheid and genocide.

        It’s not possible to draw an equivalence between the two.

      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Outside of israel opinions differ a lot. Especially because the Jews don’t believe that they are entitled to commit Genocide to steal a country.

        Nobody is attacking Jewish populations of the world. Only Zionists. Though israeli lobbies such as ADL report any criticism of israel as “anti Semitism”.

        Inside of israel it’s different. Israeli Zionists massively support killing off Palestinians. Not surprising since they live there and genuinely believe they are the Ubermensch that is entitled to expand their Lebensraum.

        From January:

        75% of Jewish Israelis Reject U.S. Demand to Shift Gaza War to New Phase, Poll Finds

  • excitingburp@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    At some point when people ask about the Holocaust, we’re going to have to start asking “which one?”

  • UmeU@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Mostly it’s the Christians that support Israel… they want to bring about the end times and they think that the Jews destroying the Muslims is the only way to make it happen. I really wish I was making this up. They are indeed that stupid.

  • bartolomeo@suppo.fi
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    8 months ago

    being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people, whether the victims of October 7 in Israel or the ongoing attack in Gaza.

    Good to see some sanity, someone pointing out that the loss of life on October 7th was ultimately caused by the occupation. Had there been no occupation there would not have been an Oct 7.

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      8 months ago

      “If Israel didn’t exist there would be no people fighting against the existence of Israel” … What the Fuck?

      What kind of role reversal is that blaming October 7. on the “occupation” seriously? I’m not saying Israels government didn’t have a hand in creating adversity and Terrorism by suppressing the Palestinian people but to claim the horrific massacres were there fault is just plain evil.

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        8 months ago

        75 years of active apartheid, violence, and genocidal warfare will eventually lead to the oppressed to act in any manner possible

        Funny to me how Americans get hard over imaginary struggle stories but condemn the Palestinian resistance

        Oh booo fucking hoooo, they took hostages, well removed. Those hostages are European colonization settlers on THEIR land. If it was Chinese occupying America you would do much much worse than anything Palestinian resistance groups (incl Hamas) ever did on Oct 7.

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          8 months ago

          Reminds me of South Africa during the apartheid period. Resistance groups always arise when people are oppressed, and they may go to extremes.

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          8 months ago
          1. Not an American but sure fight the strawmen.

          2. To say all the hostages are European Settlers is just such a false view of the facts. A lot of these people weren’t settlers. And to assume they are “European” (by which I assume you mean White) is also wrong. There are Jews (and Arabs) that live (and have lived) in this region for centuries, also there is a huge population of Jews that are black or general POC.

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    8 months ago

    Message to Glazer - do not for one moment believe that Hamas would spare you because you “refute your Jewishness.”

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      8 months ago

      “Right now we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people, whether the victims of October 7 in Israel or the ongoing attack in Gaza."

      They do not refute their Jewisness, they refute their Jewishness being hijacked. It is quite obvious, except if you want to troll…