In a major case testing the role of the First Amendment in the internet age, the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday hears arguments  focused on the federal government’s ability to combat what it sees as false, misleading or dangerous information online.

Last September, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the most conservative federal appeals court in the U.S., issued a broad ruling  that barred key government officials from contacts with social media companies. Among the personnel targeted in the order were officials at the White House, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Office of the Surgeon General, the FBI and an important cybersecurity agency.

The appeals court said that individuals at those agencies likely violated the First Amendment by seeking to coerce social media platforms into moderating or changing their content about COVID-19, foreign interference in elections and even Hunter Biden’s laptop. The Supreme Court has put that ruling on hold while it examines the tricky issues in the case.

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    This isn’t anything with the force of law though, so saying it would “give government the power to decide what constitutes misinformation” is misleading. Government communicating important information about public health and national security issues is part of their job. The current ruling if let to stand essentially places a gag order on the US government from communicating important information to any private organization.

    This is just agencies sending information to social media networks to help them make decisions. It’s still up to the social media networks to decide. If you dig into the case, you’ll see the government was even totally ignored in two thirds of cases. Luckily it appears the supreme court is likely to overturn the prior order based on their comments today, and allow the US government to communicate again.

    If in the future there was an attempt to make an actual law to give the government a power to regulate misinformation, it would have to be extremely narrow and well defined or else would be quickly overturned on first amendment grounds.

    The TikTok bill is also a separate issue. And again, I think the statement “give us control or be banned” would be misleading. That implies it’s trying to force a US government takeover of TikTok, which is not at all the case, it’s trying to force a sale to domestic private ownership (not under the control of the US government). Though I personally disagree with that bill and find it problematic. I’m not sure we should be following China’s example here and forcing international companies to divest assets to domestic ones. I think a more nuanced and more effective position would be following the eu’s lead, and regulating how all big tech companies are dealing with data.

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      it’s trying to force a sale to domestic private ownership (not under the control of the US government)

      The two (private corporations and the government) are so intertwined that you and I are going to have to disagree. I firmly believe a lot of governance happens at the behest of big business, and vice versa. The evidence is in far-reaching, long-lasting decisions like expensive private health care, military spending, environmental choices (especially corporate regulations), and federal minimum wage where it’s clear that at least some decisions are being made on behalf of business over public opinion. There is also definitely a measure of governmental content control involved in the TikTok decision - e.g. here’s Ted Cruz talking during one of the TikTok hearings and mentioning anti-Israel content as a primary concern. Just because the sale is to a private entity doesn’t mean it’s not about control of what people see.

      The rest of your points are well-made. To rebut: as I’ve made obvious, I think cases like this fit in well with safety vs. freedom discussions. Also please bear in mind the line from OP’s article: “The appeals court said that individuals at those agencies likely violated the First Amendment by seeking to coerce social media platforms into moderating or changing their content about COVID-19, foreign interference in elections and even Hunter Biden’s laptop.” So as per the article, 1st amendment law is being considered relevant, and coercion of social media is also an issue on the table.

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        “Coerce” is I think is what at issue in the case. I still think saying this ruling would give the US government “the power to define misinformation” is misleading. No one, even those arguing it was “coercion,” is arguing the government was using any legal powers to enforce their recommendations. The evidence shows in most cases they were being ignored if anything. And the appeals court was relying on some very faulty factual findings at the trial court level, much of which was pointed out in the supreme court hearing today. The previous rulings used many out of context quotes or even just portions of sentences to create something that wasn’t there. They also overstepped by insituting a very broad gag order across all government communications that has been very damaging. I’ll be surprised if the Supreme Court doesn’t rule in favor of the government here, especially based on their comments today, and don’t worry, the government still won’t have any legal powers to enforce their definitions of misinformation if the Supreme Court rules in their favor.

        I think the much greater threat to free speech comes in the form of the other Supreme Court cases heard last month (net choice v Paxton and moody v net choice), that would use the force of law to prevent social media companies from having any editorial discretion in what is posted on their sites. Despite what the Republicans pushing those laws claim, they are not in favor of free speech. The effext of those laws is, to quote the ACLU, “Under the guise of “prohibiting censorship,” these laws seek to replace the private entities’ editorial voice with preferences dictated by the government.” That’s the one that’s not only clearly coercive but comes with the force of law, and I would be very worried from a free speech perspective if the supreme court upheld those laws.

        https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-urges-supreme-court-to-uphold-preliminary-injunctions-against-laws-that-would-allow-the-government-to-regulate-editorial-discretion-on-social-media