• Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
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    9 months ago

    800 years of russian state imperialism isnt enough to convince some people that the rest of Eastern Europe has truly had enough of one of their own imposing their big brother geopolitics on the rest of them. Every shitty empire has their MO, for russia, its always been a game of lies, deceit, and muddying the waters of truth. The guy in the middle is someone whos been drinking water from a poisoned well somewhere.

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      Eastern Europe has truly had enough of one of their own imposing their big brother geopolitics on the rest of them.

      Yeah! That’s the US’s job!

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        “Hurr durr, It’s bad when the US do it but it’s fine if Russia does it”

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          “Hurr durr, it’s unacceptable to us white liberals when everybody but the US does it."

          Are you still here, white supremacist? Have you been priced out of the copium market, perhaps?

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              So you don’t understand what the term “Marxist” actually means?

              Color me surprised… do you need me to explain it to you, liberal? Fine - I will.

              Marxist simply means that you understand capitalism through a Marxist lens - that’s it. Nothing more, nothing less.

              You can be a Marxist and be a socialist.

              You can be a Marxist and be a fascist.

              You can be a Marxist and be the most exploitative and parasitic capitalist around.

              Hell, you can be a Marxist while also being the most money-grubbing banker in the west - Marxism will even help you achieve that.

              Are you getting this, liberal? Or is it still flying over your head?

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                You should probably get some psychiatrist to help you, your brain clearly doesn’t work.

                Also, normal people learn very early in life that the expected social behavior is to share the minimum amount of information needed to be understood. No capitalist will ever self describe as a Marxist.

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                  Oooooh… I’m so sorry. You conflated ideology with identity - and now you’ve gone and got your ego hurt on the rocks of political reality.

                  Yeah - that’s never a good idea. It’s a recipe for disillusionment.

                  No capitalist will ever self describe as a Marxist.

                  That’s because they don’t feel the need to stake their egos to the term “Marxist” like you do. Come here to Africa - I’ll show you “Marxist” neoliberals aplenty. You couldn’t throw a brick in one of our parliaments without hitting one.

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                    I’m not even the guy you originally responded to and I have no stake in this, I am simply telling you that your statements make you sound stupid.

                    Marxism is a socialist~communist socioeconomic/political philsosophy, and being a Marxist means you follow the ideals of said ideology, making you a socialist and/or communist (depending on the usage of the word). It does not simply (have to) mean you think “yeah the things Marx says about class are accurate”, it means you advocate for the solutions he describes for the industrialist plague.

                    Calling someone a “capitalist Marxist” is fucking gold lol, I mean depending on context/connotation of the word it isn’t always technically impossible (if that’s what you want to call class-conscious capitalists), but in this case it certainly is impossible since he’s clearly meaning it in the sense of someone who believes in implementing Marx’s socialism, not just someone who believes that what Marx says about politics/economy/power is accurate.

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            Ahh, so it’s a skin color thing… Yea, color me shocked you’d have that kinda spin lmao

            What color and political leaning are you? We’d like to judge what type of human you are

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              Ahh, so it’s a skin color thing…

              Come again? Are you trying to pretend that US foreign policy isn’t white supremacist?

              Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence… you’d better hop to it.

              What color and political leaning are you?

              Why? Is my speech not white - oops, sorry, I meant to say “western” - enough for you?