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      All leftists are in tears, Biden is a center-right Capitalist. Leftists should vote for Biden, but they can understandably be upset that they have to vote for a Neoliberal just to prevent a fascist, while liberals and fascists get to gleefully trot to the ballot box and vote for someone that actually represents their views.

      You want leftists to side with you happily? Maybe try appealing to leftists, instead of running on the basis of not being a fascist.

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          That’s what exactly no theory does to someone.

          Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an “enemy” as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.

          Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.

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            Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism.

            no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.

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              You contradicted yourself. Neoliberalism is not fascism, it provides the breeding grounds for fascism.

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                  Elaborate. You said it’s fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

                  This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That’s like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

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      10 months ago

      No one has to vote for Genocide Joe. Imagine calling people tankies while living in the most authoritarian country on earth.

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    These people sound like exact copies of the people saying voting in 2000 didn’t matter, and that turned out to be the most politically consequential of my lifetime. Gore was imperfect as they all are, but holy fuck did Dubya fuck up literally everything he touched.

    Among many, many, many things, Dubya started forever wars killing untold hundreds of thousands of people. He accelerated oil and gas production, absolutely setting the Climate Change world on a pace for disaster. He seated Alito, unquestionably the biggest monster currently on the Supreme Court. And he passed a monster tax cut for the rich that set us on this path of unrestrained deficit spending.

    And that’s just the headlines. Remember when he tried to put his personal lawyer on the Supreme Court? lol

    Gen X already tried this 25 years ago and it fucked the world up so badly that we need to be saved by the future generations. Imagine not learning that lesson and doing it again.

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      W was catastrophic. Honestly him and Reagan are the cause of most of our issues.

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          Nixon is inadvertently responsible for the creation of the right wing media circus which I would argue is fully responsible for W and trump.