• Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    That’s what exactly no theory does to someone.

    Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an “enemy” as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.

    Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.

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      10 months ago

      Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism.

      no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.

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        10 months ago

        You contradicted yourself. Neoliberalism is not fascism, it provides the breeding grounds for fascism.

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            10 months ago

            Elaborate. You said it’s fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

            This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That’s like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

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              10 months ago

              fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don’t think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.

              fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.

              neoliberalism is fascism.

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                10 months ago

                You explained what I already said: Neoliberalism creates the conditions for fascism. When one candidate is a Neoliberal, they leave the door open for fascism. When one candidate is a fascist, you’re straight jumping to fascism.

                Delaying the slide to fascism by voting neoliberal is the preferred course of action.

                You’re a fed, you have no knowledge of theory and exist purely to spoil the pot.

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                  10 months ago

                  A tiger cub is still a tiger. You can cuddle and pet a tiger cub. Even let your kids play with it. But a full grown tiger? That’s dangerous to have around, especially if it gets hungry.

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                    10 months ago

                    Sure, so then there’s no difference in voting to be locked in a room alone with a tiger cub vs an adult tiger, got it.

                    The tiger cub buys time to make meaningful grassroots change, even if it still continues the path to an eventual adult tiger.