• Allero@lemmy.today
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    8 months ago

    It’s crazy to see this upvoted.

    As white males born recently, at least on historical scale, we hold no responsibility for what other white males did back then, and you hold no special moral right to oppress anyone - you weren’t the one oppressed, and we weren’t your oppressors.

    It’s equally wrong to do racist things towards black and white people, and it’s equally wrong to be sexist against males or females.

    If we want to actually stop racism and sexism, we should stop it from spreading both ways. Otherwise you do nothing but feed into reactionary movements that will start the struggle again, while oppressing people who didn’t deserve, by any means, tp be oppressed.

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      8 months ago

      As white males born recently, at least on historical scale, we hold no responsibility for what other white males did back then

      Incorrect. You maintain and perpetuate those systems without even being self-aware enough to realize you are. Even this muleshit argument of yours is a tacit affirmation of the systemic white supremacy that underpins your society. “Just because I tangibly benefit in every fucking facet of my life doesn’t mean I’m responsible for it and you’re being a reverse-racist for trying to get what you and yours are historically owed!”

      you weren’t the one oppressed, and we weren’t your oppressors.

      Tell it to the white cop that unjustly held me at gunpoint while his Black sellout ride-along just stood there with his thumb up his ass. Tell it to the 61 Cop City protestors in Atlanta facing FEDERAL RICO CHARGES for standing against white supremacy; while not a single Jan 6th rioter’s faced HALF as dire charges. Tell it to your system of prison chattel slavery that tore my family apart and has kept uncles and cousins away from their blood.

      feed into reactionary movements that will start the struggle again,

      The struggle never fucking ended. The bill is coming due. I pray I live to see it.

      “…to be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a state of rage almost, almost all of the time—and in one’s work. And part of the rage is this: It isn’t only what is happening to you. But it’s what’s happening all around you and all of the time in the face of the most extraordinary and criminal indifference, indifference of most White people in this country, and their ignorance.” --James Baldwin

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        8 months ago

        If you consider me as someone who perpetuates those systems while being unaware of it, you’ll have more luck pointing out the ways in which I do benefit from them rather than blaming me for something I don’t even know of. If you consider me an unknowing beneficiary who doesn’t actively support those systems, you pick the wrong target. I’m more than willing to deconstruct the systems of racial prejudice, and I point out racism and sexism directed at black people and women. At the same time, if my very existence with certain traits gives me benefits, I can’t do much about it, and then you make nothing but spite.

        I’m sorry you and your family had to endure unjust treatment by the authorities. I do not know your situation, and if there was a racial aspect to it, I’m sorry to hear it and I genuinely support initiatives directed at fighting those discrepancies and bringing true justice. In any way, I personally am not the cop who hel you at gunpoint, nor do I support any of that. I do speak out against racial prejudice - in the Internet and real life.

        You didn’t quite understand when I said about reactionaries. The bill you’re gonna see is only gonna grow as by directing your hatred at white people, you feed into the rage in response, and guess what that is? White supremacism. And while most reasonable people, me included, will do our best to fight them off, they do grow in numbers. More and more people are tired of people pretending to fight racism while being blind about themselves making same sort of mistakes.

        You want equality? Go for equality. You want to stop racism? Stop being racist yourself. There’s a lot of ways you can fight for your rights without becoming bigoted yourself. Your “neverending struggle” in a way you stated it is nothing but fanatical adherence.

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          8 months ago

          I’m real happy for you chief but I’m not reading all that patronizing anglo “maybe later kiddo” setting-timetables garbage. Your cohort’s already wasted enough of my time and patience with that bs, take it somewhere else.

          “Dr. King’s policy was, if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That’s very good. He only made one fallacious assumption. In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.” – Kwame Ture