• DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online
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    8 months ago

    Took me a second.

    But man, I don’t write academic papers anymore, but I have to write a lot of reports and such for my work and I’ve tried to use different LLM’s to help and almost always the biggest help is just in making me go “Man, this sucks, it should be more like this.” and then I proceed to just write the whole thing with the slight advantage of knowing what a badly written version looks like.

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    8 months ago

    Of course we all know that Elsevier gets paid so much for their really thorough quality assuring process.

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      8 months ago

      The more astonishing part is the journal’s impact factor is above 6. I am going to assume its a publishing ring.

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      8 months ago

      My master’s was fueled by Starbucks, and my Ph.D. is fueled by spite. Don’t get me wrong; I am not against using LLMs for help, especially for ESLs. It’s a fantastic tool for developing your thoughts when used ethically. I’ve put placeholders with GPT for framing in my drafts which eventually become something completely different by the end product. This is an issue with peer review and publishing monopolies, aka late-stage capitalism. This draft was clearly not peer-reviewed and is a likely consequence of publish or perish.

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    8 months ago

    On the side of authors, please, PLEASE do not use any AI tools when writing your articles.

    It’s actually very easy to get into Q3-Q4 with absolute crap, and let’s just respect each other - not to mention keep your reputation :)

    I know it’s tedious and I don’t like sitting at 4am writing articles, either, but yeah - it’s important :D

    That’s not to say journals shouldn’t do a better job.

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      If you use it to just get started, but actually read it and have the expertise to fix mistakes and make it relevant, it’s probably fine. Not necessarily because it’s faster, but because some people just suck at getting started, and having nonsense to correct is easier to start correcting than turning whitespace into something.

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        8 months ago

        You don’t. AI will lead you astray.

        Reading it and paraphrasing is ok if you get stuck. But if you use it before thinking, you won’t get to thinking and write a piece of shit.

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          8 months ago

          Its just an intro. Who cares if its shit? Just need words there that sound like the author wrote them because its expected in case someone accidentally reads it instead of skipping it as usual.

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            8 months ago

            There’ll always be someone new to the field who does actually have to read the intro. I read a stuff outside of my field all the time and I rely on the intro to not have to go find a review just to broadly understand a given paper.

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              Can’t say the intro has ever been particularly useful, even if new to the field. If the methods aren’t detailed enough to understand the methods, then you are going to have to look elsewhere. The intro isn’t going to have that information. If you want a general summary of the field, a dedicated review is far far better than most scientists trying to fill space to get to the science.

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                8 months ago

                When a paper is far enough outside of my field I’m not going to be knowledgeable enough to critique methods. I’m not “new to the field” in the sense that I’m starting research in that area. Just thought the title was interesting/cool and I want to know a little bit more about the specifics. I don’t actually care about the field enough to study it (if I did I’d look for a review). So I’m not trying to understand the field but the just the paper(broadly). Why is the thing they study important? How did they (supposedly) come to their hypothesis? Just how badly is a news report overreaching what the source states? Etc.