• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          That person is indeed dumb, Jill Stein is (AFAIK) a well intentioned politician who wants to pressure both major political parties to be more environmentally aware - this is a noble act and she deserves praise for bringing more awareness of the environment to the national stage… but voting for her is dumb and AOC has had a much larger impact on pushing environmental policies than Stein has.

            • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              Most elections aren’t for the executive and down ballot elections, especially local elections, are extremely important. Additionally, if Jill Stein was primarying Biden it’d be extremely reasonable to vote for her there - I am really happy to uncommitted campaign happened and the results have clearly influenced Biden.

              When it comes to the general election though the scenario is different.

                • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  I disagree. If Trump is elected we’ll see a further erosion of women’s health care access. In my opinion it’s immoral not to vote for Joe Biden because thousands of women will die if Trump wins.

                  If your pride is worth those lives then you’re fucking delusional.

                  • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    it’s not about my pride, but if you found me suggesting it was, you’re fucking delusional.

                    it’s about doing the right thing. it is wrong to vote for joe biden.

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Not in a two party system they can’t.

      It fucking sucks but the US election system is broken.

        • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          Please also vote for some congress members who have a chance instead of throwing the whole ballot in the garbage.

        • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Oh certainly, but if you vote for her you’re not participating in the election. I absolutely wish we had a ranked choice elector system (well I’d actually prefer a parliamentary system where we didn’t actually vote for an executive and instead one was chosen by the majority of the house)… but we don’t. If you vote for Jill Stein you aren’t advocating for a green policy in America, you’re refusing to make a choice between Biden and Trump and accepting responsibility for whoever gets elected.

          • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            you’re refusing to make a choice between Biden and Trump and accepting responsibility for whoever gets elected.

            I’m not responsible for the people who vote for a candidate I don’t support.

            • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              Here’s the thing, you’re an adult now. You have to choose between A and B, it fucking sucks but you have to do it. If you instead choose to refuse to vote in a meaningful way you’re surrendering your decision to fate and, effectively, removing your vote from whoever you detest less thus gifting a vote to the candidate you detest more.

              Life is full of hard choices and this is one of them, please do vote for an actual candidate and make your voice heard.

        • Aphelion@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          Have fun throwing your vote away. Hopefully it makes you feel good because that will be all it accomplishes.