It’s amazing how some of the most controversial topics are basically just “let’s try being nice to people”
The FBI added you to the list
“Modern developed countries should not have homeless people.”
Right wingers think this is an insanely dangerous idea. In my youth someone bought me a copy of Atlas Shrugged after hearing me say things like that.
I realized that they were trying to indoctrinate me, but I was confident in my own judgement and wanted to know my enemy better. Even if I would’ve been susceptible to the brainwashing, that book was insanely long and insanely boring, so they chose poorly. I couldn’t get through even half of it
It always reminds me of the Bill Burr interview:
The news anchor is going, “Bill, aren’t you being a little hard on those people?” In reference to something like clergymen raping boys.
And Bill is like, “How do you think those boys feel?”
This might be not the right place to ask, but is there a theory or phenomenon that explains why so many people side with the perpetrators/people in power when abuses are being commented on?
Sympathizing with the clergyman in your example, or another pop culture example I’ve seen recently is defending private jet usage.
The easy answer is “brainworms”, but there must be more to it than that, surely?
Victim blaming is so prolific, I find people justifying it in a way that sounds like, “it would never happen to me, so it’s your fault for letting it happen to you.” People either aren’t willing or aren’t capable of understanding a different perspective from their own, so they aren’t able to sympathize.
How we label that deficiency (and it is a deficiency) will be hard to do because the causes can be so varied.
Also vegans with the stop killing animals sign
Then their signs should read: Stop Breeding Animals.
Vegans are ultimately advocating for the extinction of farm animals.
There are a lot of animals that only exist because they are tasty or useful in some other way. Their species would never survive in the specks of wilderness we have left.
If you can’t finding it naturally roaming Yellowstone or some other national park, it’s reasonable safe to assume that species wouldn’t exist if we didn’t farm them.
Took me a moment to realize this is anti vegan because, sure, we humans have bred some (sub)species that shouldn’t exist in the first place. Farm animals are anatomically dependent on humans and have body proportions that made no sense from a animal welfare perspective nor from surviving autonomously. Their wild counterparts can stay though.
It’s not meant to be anti-vegan, it’s the logical conclusion of the statement. Rather than playing with the words just say what you mean.
Ruminating on it, lead me to think about the biodiversity in animal husbandry and how that would disappear if we all went vegan. Those are side affected I’ve never seen discussed. The downvotes tell me most people prefer comforting lies and would rather avoid second order thinking.
Maybe it’s not discussed because the handful of domesticated animals isn’t a big deal of biodiversity in the first place. It’s not that people aren’t aware of it, they are more concerned with the real loss of biodiversity in nature.
That’s an unsupported assertion.
Replacing animals with plants is definitely a reduction is diversity. We clone plants. Farmers are not going to replace their dairy farm with a butterfly garden.
Anyway, this will be my last post on this thread.
These downvotes are a clear indication that it’s not something this audience wants to discuss.
I find this to be a common theme with vegans, they are only interested in discussing the benefits and refuse to consider any downsides. But that’s an entirely different topic.
PLEASE STOP KILLING
PEOPLEYeah, go vegan!
By killing every single living being looking for food that gets remotely close to a farm. All just so that vegans can be malnourished and have to rely on basically drugs in order to live.
Congratulations, you are wearing the suit in the meme.
Meat is just a nutrient supplement administered orally.
As is all food, including plants.
The question is the empathy barrier and the domestication contract.
How many cows will live through the coming methane purge without human consumption. Hint it’s gonna be really low; even with that barrier it’s not looking great. PETA and other animal rights groups run headlong into the survival questions that Humanity doesn’t currently have an answer for. Their best hope is looking like the Svalbard institute and only if they are a farmable resource for colony planets.
Sure and that’s an infinitely better reasoned concern than “but vegans live on drugs and that’s bad and unnatural”. I’m not even vegan, just wanted to call it out how silly and arbitrary that line of thinking was.
