• niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    You skipped a generation. Let’s wait and see who they cast as Leto II and Ghanima for Children Of Dune… if they get there at all.

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      Leto II mentioned that Paul also saw the Golden Path, but was too weak to implement it and instead went into the desert as the Preacher. It wasn’t mentioned that worm transformation was required for the Golden Path to succeed, but it gave Leto longevity to oversee it.

      What I’m trying to say is that Paul likely thought about transforming into the worm.

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        6 months ago

        My interpretation agrees with you. I suppose it’s possible he only saw the thousands of years of being a tyrant and was rejecting that. But I still think he saw the worm transformation.

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          6 months ago

          Major Dune spoilers:

          Isn’t that pretty explicit in Children? Leto II frequently chastises his genetic memory father/actual father for being a coward to afraid to commit to the golden path. Paul saw where the golden path led and couldn’t do it so he becomes the Preacher whereas Leto saw what was needed to guide humanity and thus sacrificed his to become The Tyrant

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    6 months ago

    Become a worm, to do what your father was too scared to. Rule as a tyrant for three thousand years to fundamentally shake shit up and keep shit shook up. Die. Shit comes back as if nothing ever happened.

    (I haven’t read Heretics and ChapterHouse for a while)

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      I think the last coming back was a Brian Herbert thing because Frank spent too much time beating his children and not enough telling them that Paul is actually a bad guy.

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    6 months ago

    Anyone else feel like the Fremen are blatantly meant to represent the Jewish people? Not saying that Hollywood has been run by the MIC since the 1920’s and that this is yet another Hollywood propaganda piece disguised as super hero action entertainment or anything…

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        6 months ago

        In the first film, there is some of the most blatant “oh yeah?!” 25 year old Israeli conscript moments that is unmistakable. Have you met a lot of Israelis, personally?

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          I think you are just overlaying a lot of your personal experiences on some pictures which sure may have been influenced by Israel.

          However the source material which has been out for decades could not have been more clear that the entire race of people is explicitly descendants of current day Arabs. Again, the exact opposite of the Jews.

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            6 months ago

            The recent “Dune” is a pro-Israeli propaganda piece. It is also other things, like a mediocre movie, but it’s also very blatant propaganda.

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          Again, this was written by Frank Herbert with a TON of straight up Arabic in their names, speech, vocabulary. Why TF would he write a bunch of Jews to be speaking Arabic, the language of their arch nemeses?

          I do agree it is a little weird for a bunch of desert people on a desert planet to be white, would’ve expected a bit more melanin in their skin, but that’s just white chauvanism in general not specifically Jewish.

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            How about “appropriation”? Tell me how that’s a new thing for Israel. The fact that they are clearly represented as Israelis in the film is hardly something Herbert had any say in. You’d be well advised to read up on the history of Hollywood and how propaganda works, it would make more sense then perhaps.

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          It’s almost as if literary works are open to interpretation! And filmization*!

          * Yes, it’s actually “filmization” and not “filmatization” as it, of course, should be. Personally, I blame Hollywood.