Project 2025’s 180-Day Playbook is a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.

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    Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion and Cut LGBT Rights

    There’s a problem with this headline.

    If they f**k with long-established law like this, they’re not “conservatives”.

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      They’re conservative insofar as they think peak society was when only cishet white men were allowed to participate.

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    Perfect time to teach Biden a lesson by not voting for him – or so I’ve been told by those with too much privilege and not enough brainpower.

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      Or you could say that this issue and all the others mean so little to the Democratic Party that running anybody but Genocide Joe is off the table.

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        Hi, it’s me, a Palestinian American, how about don’t use my people’s plight to justify letting the guy who wants to deport my ass for liking Knaffeh get into office?

        I have enough issues without truck nuts McGee feeling re-emboldened to call me Sand Nigger and Towelhead.

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          I’m not the guy who wants Trump in office. I’m just the one who doesn’t want to vote for somebody who is repeatedly bypassing Congress to send weapons to literal fascists committing war crimes. That’s someone I can’t just hold my nose and vote for. His political career is over.

          Why can’t we have any of the other people who ran in the 2020 Democratic primaries instead of Biden? This idea that it absolutely has to be Biden or else the DNC will let the country fall apart with Trump is so completely messed up.

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            Why can’t we have any of the other people who ran in the 2020 Democratic primaries instead of Biden?

            Which one of them did you canvas for?

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              I like how someone actually responded to your ridiculous question and you suddenly stop mouthing off to people. What a surprise. /s

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      Perfect time for Democrats to nominate an 81 yo guy that most people think it’s too old to run. This election won’t even be close if someone other than Biden ran. His accomplishments don’t really matter in the face of his mortality.

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          Oh right, because individual citizens can beat the entire democratic party machine on their own. What a ridiculous fucking comment.

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      I guess being a Muslim and feeling pain when I see a dead baby is “privilege” nowadays. Have you considered the idea that for some people not funding a genocide is more important than anything else? You can’t keep bombing the middle east, say “orange man bad” and expect people to vote for you. I don’t give a shit at this point. I’ll vote for whoever’s running against a person who took a dime from AIPAC.

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        Have you considered the idea that for some people not funding a genocide is more important than anything else?

        Do you really think orange stain isn’t going to start absolutely pouring money into Israel? If you think it’s bad now

        In the US we are currently stuck with a 2 party system, a vote for any third party candidate is a throwaway vote in a presidential election.

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          Actually, voting for a 3rd party is almost always a vote for Trump. The people talking about abstaining or voting 3rd party are overwhelmingly of progressive mindset.

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            Nope z that isn’t how math works. You make the incorrect assumption that those people would ok d vote for Democrats if they didn’t have a choice, which all dats shows is wrong.

            A vote for a third party is equivalent to not voting. That’s a fucking fact z and I’m sick of you liars trump to bully people into voting for your corporate protofascist. It’s never worked and never will, but that won’t stop you from doing it because it’s so much easier than engaging someone and validating their concerns. A

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        I guess being a Muslim and feeling pain when I see a dead baby is “privilege” nowadays.

        Weird guess, but no.

        Privilege is knowing that not voting for Biden increases the risk of a Trump presidency, and making that choice anyways. The only way it isn’t is if you genuinely believe Trump would be better.

        Orange man is bad. Of course he is.

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          Oh I didn’t say I’m not voting for Biden. Read again. I said I’m voting for whoever’s running against a person that took a dime from AIPAC. Fuck anyone who thinks what’s going on in Palestine is acceptable. Things wouldn’t have come to this point if morons like you actually spoke up and protested against Biden instead of calling people idiots for not voting for him. But your privileged ass didn’t do shit for genocide and now want people to go crazy over LGBTQ rights.

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            If you’re voting for Biden, then you’re pretty clearly not the type of person I’m calling privileged, right?

            Things wouldn’t have come to this point if morons like you actually spoke up and protested against Biden

            Don’t call me a moron. And don’t claim that I didn’t speak out against Biden. Be better than that.

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              Fuck off with your privilege bullshit. You don’t know any of the people you’re talking to. Straight up character assassination.

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      I’m voting for Biden to stave off Jerry Lewis Hitler, as I did last cycle and Clinton before.

      That said, a lot of Biden enthusiasts need to stop with the “you also need to say you like him and his politics” crap.

      No one should feel enthused about always getting wildly varying degrees of bad as the only choice, merely afraid. At this point we’re voting whether to keep the water pumps on as Titanic sinks to buy a little time instead of declaring the water at our waist “fake.”

      Vote to keep the pumps on, sure, but it helps nothing to pretend our rigged capitalist hellscape, that neoliberals and fascists alike declare as “the only way,” isn’t eating the itself and us and defended by both parties far above the people (we will take every measure to protect our beloved society economy! Here Fed, I’m sure you’ll ensure these relief funds trickle down after private shareholders get plenty of relief, of course), while it continues wrecking the planet for a few more short term cash grabs before the owners fly off to their prepared havens, con complete. Nox.

      A vote for Biden is a vote for us to not add state sponsored scapegoating, persecution, and ending bodily autonomy to our doom in motion like a cherry. Yes let’s do that(edit: meaning vote for Biden if unclear)…

      https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/warmest-arctic-summer-on-record-is-evidence-of-accelerating-climate-change

      …but don’t delude yourself into believing it’s any kind of salvation.

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        That said, a lot of Biden enthusiasts need to stop with the “you also need to say you like him and his politics” crap.

        That’s certainly not a significantly pervasive mindset – at least not around here. The general sentiment is “hold your nose and vote for him anyways”.

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          It’s literally all over this thread and in most threads about Palestine. You’re lying.

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      They’re all over the fucking place here. It’s wild. They’re almost for certain foreign cointelpro.

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        I do think theyre making perfect be the enemy of, well not exactly good, but in this case the better option, but Im not so sure theyre foreign ops. If you were running a campaign like that, wouldnt you want to concentrate your messaging on the places where the greatest number of people would be to see it, or at least a lot of people? Lemmy is certainly not immune to influence campaigns, Id bet it might even be more vulnerable than most given the lack of central control that might try to inhibit one, but its also currently incredibly small and obscure as far as social networks go. Would it really be considered worth the resources, to such a campaign, in its current state?

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          Agreed. They’re dangerous and privileged – it really doesn’t need to be more complicated than that.

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            Imagine voting for neolibs and having the gall to call progressives privileged. Progressives are younger and lower income but sure we’re the privileged ones. You don’t give a shit about anything except character assassinating anyone you see as an enemy. There’s never any honest attempt at engagement from you people.

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              Imagine advocating for actions that directly increase the risk of a Trump presidency.

              Grow up.

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                Oh no, how dare I publicly criticize a political candidate in a democracy. It’s fucking crazy that you think you’re actually one of the good guys. This is exactly the kind of shit fascists say to shut down opposition.

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        They’re almost for certain foreign cointelpro.

        Where do I collect my cheque?

        What we’re telling y’all is that voting one more time for a neoliberal isn’t going to make a meaningful change in stopping the inevitable descent into fascism that neoliberal policies have facilitated for the last 40 or 50 years.

        It’s like the saying goes: the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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          You’re saying in one breath that Trump and Biden are the same and in the next that voting for either one of them equally insane. Both of those things are plainly false.

          Won’t make a difference means zero difference but Trump is literally the accelerationist choice.

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            You need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said they are the same. I said one is the product of the other.

            People have been telling you this would happen for forty or fifty years.

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              isn’t going to make a meaningful change

              My reading comprehension is just fine. You need an argument and it’s not the one that you’re getting.

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                Surely what the Democrats are doing is effective, and Christo fascism is now less of a threat than it was in 2016 and 2020. Right? They should clearly keep doing the same thing, it’s working super well!

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    Keep in mind though, that there’s a LOT of bad-faith propaganda-shilling accounts right here on lemmy desperately trying to convince you that both sides are equally as bad and not to vote this year.

    Best advice is to report and block them when they share their misinformation and don’t fall for it.

    I’m sure we all know who I’m talking about.

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      Sure, right wings are way way worse, yes, don’t vote for Trump, vote for (probably) Biden

      But don’t fall in the trap where you just block anyone that disagrees, or you’ll find yourself becoming that which you hate, just on the other side.

      Just because Biden isn’t as bad as trump, it’s a VERY low bad to cross and there is plenty to criticize. Still vote for Biden, obviously, but that doesn’t mean he should get a free pass

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          Not enough people say that. I assume you want trump elected or -if Biden is elected- that we aren’t allowed to criticize Biden at all?

          Vote Biden, doh, but don’t stop being critical