I’ve just watched the video. I find it pretty outrageous. The word about it should spread.

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    6 months ago

    I migrated and they locked my new account. Now they’re essentially extorting my phone number

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    I do not have any of GAFAM (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) accounts and this is nice “achievement” to have in life for me.
    Maybe if I would need them for something important like becoming a video creator, having to publish an Android app for a company or promote my buissness on social media I would create one. But for just one game it’s a pass for me. The most important game in my life, but I have grown up and do not play it anymore.

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      That is an impressive achievement. Out of curiosity, do you have a smartphone? And if so, which operating system do you use?

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        With most of my things I use being standardized or common formats, I find deGoogled Android builds to more than enough.
        Currently LineageOS on my OnePlus. I have a phone with Linux mobile for testing, it’s close but missing things like camera is too much.

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            There is no success to have here. You get rid of 5 big tech things, but left 2, that won’t mean you failed :P.
            It’s not something to be avoided at all costs, just something unhealthy to freedom of one and society.

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    I still haven’t migrated my Minecraft account. I don’t have a Microsoft account and I don’t want one. I’d prefer to lose the game.

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      6 months ago

      Nevertheless, the most important bit here is that, you shouldn’t have to loose the game and it’s a very scammy move from Microsoft.

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    I got locked out of my now 8+ year old account because I had set it up with an old ISP provided email which has since been deactivated. I can’t migrate because I have to verify with the email and I can’t change the email without setting up security questions, which also requires the email. Support can do nothing.

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      6 months ago

      i used a Gmail account mostly for some videogames services but Google locked me out of that account after several years because i didn’t provide a phone number for it after a few years and i refused to… So a lot of my old game accounts can’t be accessed anymore…

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        That’s also why i’m considering wheather it is better to use an email provider or maybe use your own domain for that purpouse… Maybe the combination of both could be the best bet (by that i mean using an email provider like proton mail and using it with your own domain so you can control the domain if anything goes wrong).

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    There is a reason they deactivated the accounts, but it doesn’t justify removing the ability to migrate at any time. For those interested:

    The old mojang accounts were not secure, and there were millions of accounts that could be accessed without email ownership. This created a grey market for cheap Minecraft accounts. These cheap accounts were almost exclusively used to cheat on non-cracked servers, which sucked for a lot of players who did competitive Minecraft games on servers. The migration did fix this problem, by requiring access to the original email or answers to the security questions. Migrating your mojang account also gave access to the windows 10 version of the game. It probably should have been allowed forever, and I have no clue why they didn’t.

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    I had an old Alpha account. I missed the migration window out of a mix of laziness and not really checking my email.

    Surely this cannot be legal and all this shit about forced arbitration cannot hold up in a British court?

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    Yeah, this is corporate bullshit. However…

    Minecraft is a rare bird that lets you download every single public release (that was archived) all the way back to the original test builds. I recently re-downloaded 1.14 to play a unique seed that only loads all the features correctly on that version.

    And when you play Minecraft, you download the entire game as a .jar file to your computer and it stays there, even if you upgrade to a later version. There are third-party launchers that let you load those .jars and play without logging into anything.

    So, it’s up to you whether or not you tow the company line and use a Microsoft account and the official launcher or just download some fan-made software and run the old versions forever.

    I recommend anyone who lost their Mojang account to just dig out the latest version downloaded to their computer and run it through a custom launcher, or look up instructions on running the game without a launcher.

    (This only applies to the Java version of the game, but that’s the best version anyway because of features and custom mods. Playing roms of the console/mobile games requires modding the appropriate system and that’s a lot more involved.)

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      btw, the game doesn’t actually require auth in order to download jar files and launch the game (server’s come with online checks enabled by default tho, so you’ll only be able to play single player)

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    I’ll tell ya more, if you read hardware license agreements then you know that even with hardware you don’t “own” anything, you just bought license to temporarily use it, i was shocked back in the day when i read license agreement on my iPad 4 in 2013, there was point about it, that i don’t own but only bought temporary rights to use it

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      I see people going “this is what you get for buying digital”, and that’s what they are not seeing. This is not about digital being more unreliable than physical. This is an attack at the concept of customer ownership itself.

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        Yes, i don’t know if they changed anything, but in high school I’ve read license agreement of my iPad 4 and was shocked

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      Microsoft buys Minecraft; forces users to migrate to Microsoft accounts; after ~3 years all non-migrated accounts are deleted. In contrast, if you have a pre-Google youtube account, you can still migrate that 17 year old account.

      Mojang Minecraft accounts were paid for, but Microsoft deleted them if they didn’t migrate after those three years. Many people who had “bought” the game weren’t able to access multiplayer any more after serving in the military, getting out of prison, etc.

      He argues that buying a videogame doesn’t mean you actually own; however, in my view since you can still play offline, you can.

      Are there like hobby Minecraft servers not related to Microsoft? I’m thinking like the Library map and such.

      *I feel I must add that I’ve never played Minecraft.

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        in this case, microsoft just decided that they didn’t have to bother supporting legacy accounts because they didn’t feel like it, so they pulled them without consent or compensation

        in the case of ai generated media, companies just decided that they just had the rights to use existing published media, so they harvested it without consent or compensation

        both complaints are the same complaint: that businesses are just deciding on contracts unilaterally and then imposing them on people without the need for consent

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      Piracy is piracy.

      But the only one that owns Minecraft is Microsoft, since they bought it for over 2 billion dollars. Everyone else just bought a license to use it. Just like in all the other cases of buying music, video, or software. Unless lots of lawyers were involved, you only bought permission to use it, in a certain way at that. Pretending otherwise or not knowing in the first place has never been a legal excuse.

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        You’re getting downvoted, but you’re right. And that is the reason that using proprietary software and SaaS is a problem. If I’m only buying the right to use a copy of something as a company sees fit, then I’m not really buying anything. I’m essentially paying a company a tribute to use their software in their way.

        Decades ago, it was the same way, but it felt different. We got physical media, and we could do what we wished with the files: modify them, delete them, etc. Hell, the EULAs for some '90s and early '00s software even said you could use the software in perpetuity, and we could use software in anyway we saw fit. The biggest constraint was on selling copies. Back then, and even now, that seems pretty reasonable. (Though, as an aside, it would have been better to also get access to the source code, but I digress.)

        Now, we have to use company’s software exactly how they want us to use it. Personally, I refuse to go along with this (as much as I can), so I have migrated most of my digital life to FLOSS.