Then they’re mad at their own imaginations, since no one here is saying to vote for Trump.

No one, but centrists can’t rationalize support for genocide without pretending that opposition to genocide is support for Trump.

I think insurance companies are useless parasites that should all have been outmoded by single payer decades ago.

So Democrats will always have a fascist to run against, so they’ll never move to the left.

Ok. China and Russia should also stop doing that.

I ask because Neoliberal Economics is all about this profit, and share holders first, type values.

Sounds exactly like modern political liberals to me.

We should stop selling him weapons and having his back at the UN.

That’s a pretty small boat. The other passengers had to have noticed him drilling the hole.

Why did none of them stop him?

Now this sub’s centrists are gonna call me the nonvoter in this comic, but I vote every chance I get. What they really don’t like is criticism from their left and only their left.

It’s the sort of political courage the DNC is looking for in its next preordained candidate.

Do yachts while you’re at it.

Have you ever considered not making baseless accusations at people who oppose genocide?

Your support for genocide is indefensible, so you have to make up shit about people who oppose it.

This argument would carry more weight if people thought those we elect were interested in actually addressing those issues.

One turned to the other and said, “Hans… Are we the baddies?”

Weak bait. This conversation has concluded.

Since you’ve chosen to lie in order to justify your support for genocide, there’s no point in continuing this conversation.

Israel is a nuclear power. Iran is not.

Since you’ve chosen to lie in order to justify your support for genocide, there’s no point in continuing this conversation.

Don’t put words in my mouth just because you don’t want Biden to be subject to any scrutiny.

I’m happy with him when he listens to progressives and doesn’t give up. Which has pretty much been this one issue.

For me I actually try to make a deliberate effort to air criticism of Biden where it’s due

You’re the very first person on many threads to accuse Biden’s critics of being Russian shills.

Centrists didn’t want this. Progressives did. Biden listened to progressives. When he encountered a setback, he could have announced he tried and given up forever, and no one would have been surprised. Hell, it’s exactly what I expected would happen.

Instead he had a contingency plan ready to go and followed it up with other plans.

He listened to progressives and didn’t give up. This remains the high point of the Biden presidency.