• Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    That’s not how it works?

    Everyone deserves decent internet access. Restriction to access results in poverty.

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      6 months ago

      The article in this post is about the FCC refusing Starlink access to the very low orbit, which is close of the ISS orbit. Starlink wants access to this low orbit, for reduce latency. They don’t refuse Starlink to send more satellites, so the internet access is still available.

    • echo64@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      It is quite literally how it works.

      In addition, Starlink is not a good solution. It requires an infinite amount of rockets sent into low earth orbit forever, at a heavy subsidised cost paid for by American taxpayers.

      You should be pushing for long-term solutions, not ones that literally fall out of the sky six months after the subsidies stop.

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        6 months ago

        It’s a good thing that these are put on the low earth orbit which decays faster. That means it cleans itself of space junk in a relatively short time. Putting them higher up would mean higher latency and more junk in space for longer amount of time.

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          The alternative is not “higher orbit satellites”, it’s “put wires on the earth”.

          Firing infinite rockets that fall out of the sky in a year is a bad, wasteful option that only exists because the American government is not under enough pressure to fix its infrastructure problems.

          the rest of the world, even the big countries with lots of remote citizens, they used wires not infinite rockets.

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            6 months ago

            It doesn’t make any sense to dig cables into rural areas. It would cost a fortune to connect some remote house to the grid. Going wireless is the obvious solution to this and satellite internet gives you much better connection than cell towers. They didn’t dig landlines into poor african countries either but skipped right into mobile phones.

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              You might have a point if launching rockets was cheaper, but launching infinite rockets forever is not cheaper. The rockets fall out of the sky. So we’re talking about one upfront cost or a cost forever.

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                We’ll likely have much better technology in the future and the problem will more or less solve itself. In this day and age satellite internet simply just is the most sensible option and probably cheaper aswell. The amount of diesel machinery you’d need to dig all that cable in the rural USA alone would be mind boggling not to mention the enviromental damage of all that digging. These cables don’t last forever either. They too need maintenance and eventually to be dug up and replaced.

                Rocket is just the delivery vehicle for the satellites. It’s not supposed to stay in orbit itself. Building the rocket is what has made space flight so expensive in the past because they were single-use but now with reusable rockets the cost is much less of an issue. They run with renewable fuel aswell - oxygen and methane.

                Space travel is going to be getting much more common in the future and the number of rocket launches is only going to increase either way.

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                  6 months ago

                  Shockingly, you don’t need to dig. And handwaving away the cost, including the environmental cost of infinite rocket launches forever because “oh magical technology will save us some day” does not help your case.

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          6 months ago

          The FCC and the government at large isn’t to blame for this one. The ISPs collected the governments money to run high speed Internet to the rural parts of this country. Blame your ISP for not using the funds as intended. Maybe also blame the government for not holding them accountable for not delivering.

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      6 months ago

      Pay to have fiber run to your house. Your living choice isn’t our problem.

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        6 months ago

        Additionally, get mad at the ISPs that took government funding to expand rural internet access and then didn’t. It’s always the governments fault with these people, never the corporations that are working day after day to shaft people

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        6 months ago

        Jeez, imagine having this little interest in the needs and desires of the people who literally grow your food.

        Edit: not necessarily saying LEO satellites are the best solution; I’m the furthest thing from an expert on the topic. This tone just seems wholly unproductive and spiteful.