• hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Okay look this needs to stop.

    First, the economic success has become overstated at this point. There was a relatively brief period in US history where this could happen. Being an adult during that period required living through both the great depression and WW2. The only people who truly got a free lunch were boomers born before 1955.

    These times were also marked by extreme bigotry. Anyone who wasn’t a straight white neurotypical cisgendered man faced comical levels of oppression.

    Even for that subgroup, life could have a million difficulties. You know how a lot of seemingly successful boomers talk about how money isn’t everything? There’s a reason for that. All but the most privileged had to deal with shit like this:

    • A culture where it was not acceptable to show emotion as a result of millions of men trying to collectively repress their massive PTSD
    • Marrying (for life) the first woman you date.
    • Having kids by 22
    • having all the stress and responsibility that comes with being the sole provider with that, again at an extremely young age
    • Coming home every day (until you get married) with the knowledge that there might be a Vietnam draft card in the mailbox

    It feels like 90 percent of online discourse revolves around oppression, trauma, and marginilized groups. Yet everyone still pretends that the boomers all lived some super easy life.

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      8 months ago

      Baby boomers are exclusively those born between 1946 to 1964. 55% of the living boomers are presumably females safe from the draft and 45% are male. 95% of the draft was over by 1971 whereas only 38% of boomers were of draft age by then. Of the draft pool about 8% were drafted.

      On net 1.3% of boomers were drafted for Viatnam. 0% went through the great depression 0% went through WW2.

      These times were also marked by extreme bigotry. Anyone who wasn’t a straight white neurotypical cisgendered man faced comical levels of oppression.

      In case you hadn’t noticed 99.99% of the whining is from straight white neurotypical cisgendered men. Comical levels of oppression or not they on average came out of it with houses that ballooned in value 8x over and now enjoy the same degree of freedom from oppression as you and I along with their money and house and are steady trying to reinstate that comical level of oppression at the hands of the dictator they intend to give our democracy to.

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          8 months ago

          I’m 43. Statistically the people that are whining are themselves extremely privileged who on average came of age after Vietnam. They don’t get to use other people’s suffering as a fuckin excuse.

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              8 months ago

              So you look at people today demanding more and say “this has got to stop” and launch into some malarkey about how the worst generation actually honest had a real hard time and you believe other people are petulant. Alrighty then.

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                8 months ago

                You have extremely limited empathy for boomers because they were the authority figures growing up. You still treat them like a teenager would treat their parents, as opposed to how an adult would approach the situation.

                This tweet is alluding to some golden era of America that never really existed in the way that the Internet implies

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                  8 months ago

                  Why would I have empathy for boomers? This is essentially a generational conflict. You don’t win by having empathy.

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      8 months ago

      Nearly all of those situations didn’t overlap.

      Housing wasn’t cheap because people were racist, housing was cheap because the American dollar was strong from a well developed manufacturing base, net exports, and wartime technology innovations.

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          8 months ago

          That’s why you will never come to a meaningful answer, the assumption that because a and b existed at the same time, that they were interrelated.

          informal fallacy.

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            8 months ago

            My point was in regards to general online discourse around Boomers having it easy. As such, I listed the struggles they had.

            That being said the ability to support a family on one income probably had a lot to do with taboos about women in the workforce.

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                  8 months ago

                  Yeah, were a lot less nice to people who obstinately refuse to understand basic logic

                  “Oh but boomers had hard lives in other ways” isn’t the point at all and those things have nothing to do with the post.

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                    8 months ago

                    This post doesn’t exist in a vacuum. There are a million and one posts about how the boomers had it super easy, and have been over a decade now. This is yet another one of these posts.

                    Second, the fact that supporting a family on a single family income was possible had a ton to do with the fact that people were pressured into having families and women were largely unable to enter the workforce.