The Big Lebowski. It’s got a perfect combination of plodding, boring plot and insufferably obnoxious characters that makes it a physically painful watching experience.
It genuinely confuses me that people like The Fifth Element. The plot is just batshit insane, and it suffers from obnoxious character syndrome just as much as Lebowski does.
Thor: Ragnarok is by far the worst Thor movie, and is in the top 3 worst Marvel movies. It’s an absolute travesty of a film that not only ruined the character of the Hulk to the point where he had to be effectively erased as a character going forward, but turned Thor himself into a Gimli-esque laughingstock, and is also just neither funny nor entertaining. But, then again, neither is anything I’ve seen by Taika. Edit: Actually, that’s not quite true. Here’s a really hot take for y’all: Love and Thunder is the good Taika Thor movie. It wasn’t great, but it was miles better than Ragnarok.
On that note, any movie (or show) where the entire second arc/B-plot is a useless side quest that either fails or does nothing but waste the audience’s time. See, for example: Thor Ragnarok, The Last Jedi, Andor.
Tarantino movies are really overrated, but I wouldn’t say I dislike them.
Edit: Ooh, thought of another one. O Brother Where Art Thou would have been an enjoyable movie if it hadn’t tried to act like it’s an adaptation of the Odyssey. As someone who’s pretty familiar with Homer, it just infuriates me every time I try to watch it.
Edit2: Someone mentioned Skyfall, which has now reminded me that as a huge James Bond fan, I hate all of Craig’s Bond films (except Casino Royale) with a fiery passion, to the extent that I don’t even consider them James Bond movies (they’re “James Bourne” movies at best), and I don’t ever include them in my rankings of the series.
Both The Big Lebowski and O Brother Where Art Thou are directed by Joel and Ethan Coen and and it sounds like you might not like their style.
I’m upvoting you for sharing your opinion even though I disagree 100% as all three movies you mentioned are fantastic at what they set out to do, but not for everyone.
The Big Lebowski may be more fun if you’re already into stoner comedies and classic cinema, because it’s one parodying the other. The cliche in detective novels was a private eye chasing wrong leads but advancing the plot regardless.
but I’ve never seen a Simon Pegg film that I enjoyed (which have been two so far: Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz).
… are you maybe just immune to the meta? Like, if you don’t enjoy Airplane!, I am gonna say this is a you problem.
I liked Airplane!, so I don’t think it’s that I just dislike meta movies. I really enjoyed Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, for example, but maybe that’s more of a subversion movie than a meta movie? I also enjoy movies like Spaceballs, but maybe that’s more of a spoof? I dunno…
I think I get the intention of Lebowski, and I’ve often enjoyed the “protag accidentally bumbling his way into success” trope otherwise, so maybe it’s the stoner movie side of things that messes it up for me, since I only rarely enjoy stoner movies.
I think in both cases, Simon Pegg and Lebowski, it might be the characters that get under my skin most.
Either way, I appreciate your help in trying to figure this out.
That was a hard upvote. Tarantino is my favorite director. I’ve only been lukewarm on one of his movies. And even then, I didn’t dislike it. Respect your opinion though.
Also, my two favorite movies are Pulp Fiction and The Fifth Element.
Question: How do you feel about Edgar Wright? Specifically Hot Fuzz and Baby Driver if you’ve seen those.
The Big Lebowski. It’s got a perfect combination of plodding, boring plot and insufferably obnoxious characters that makes it a physically painful watching experience.
It genuinely confuses me that people like The Fifth Element. The plot is just batshit insane, and it suffers from obnoxious character syndrome just as much as Lebowski does.
Thor: Ragnarok is by far the worst Thor movie, and is in the top 3 worst Marvel movies. It’s an absolute travesty of a film that not only ruined the character of the Hulk to the point where he had to be effectively erased as a character going forward, but turned Thor himself into a Gimli-esque laughingstock, and is also just neither funny nor entertaining. But, then again, neither is anything I’ve seen by Taika. Edit: Actually, that’s not quite true. Here’s a really hot take for y’all: Love and Thunder is the good Taika Thor movie. It wasn’t great, but it was miles better than Ragnarok.
On that note, any movie (or show) where the entire second arc/B-plot is a useless side quest that either fails or does nothing but waste the audience’s time. See, for example: Thor Ragnarok, The Last Jedi, Andor.
Tarantino movies are really overrated, but I wouldn’t say I dislike them.
Edit: Ooh, thought of another one. O Brother Where Art Thou would have been an enjoyable movie if it hadn’t tried to act like it’s an adaptation of the Odyssey. As someone who’s pretty familiar with Homer, it just infuriates me every time I try to watch it.
Edit2: Someone mentioned Skyfall, which has now reminded me that as a huge James Bond fan, I hate all of Craig’s Bond films (except Casino Royale) with a fiery passion, to the extent that I don’t even consider them James Bond movies (they’re “James Bourne” movies at best), and I don’t ever include them in my rankings of the series.
Both The Big Lebowski and O Brother Where Art Thou are directed by Joel and Ethan Coen and and it sounds like you might not like their style.
I’m upvoting you for sharing your opinion even though I disagree 100% as all three movies you mentioned are fantastic at what they set out to do, but not for everyone.
The Big Lebowski may be more fun if you’re already into stoner comedies and classic cinema, because it’s one parodying the other. The cliche in detective novels was a private eye chasing wrong leads but advancing the plot regardless.
… are you maybe just immune to the meta? Like, if you don’t enjoy Airplane!, I am gonna say this is a you problem.
I liked Airplane!, so I don’t think it’s that I just dislike meta movies. I really enjoyed Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, for example, but maybe that’s more of a subversion movie than a meta movie? I also enjoy movies like Spaceballs, but maybe that’s more of a spoof? I dunno…
I think I get the intention of Lebowski, and I’ve often enjoyed the “protag accidentally bumbling his way into success” trope otherwise, so maybe it’s the stoner movie side of things that messes it up for me, since I only rarely enjoy stoner movies.
I think in both cases, Simon Pegg and Lebowski, it might be the characters that get under my skin most.
Either way, I appreciate your help in trying to figure this out.
That was a hard upvote. Tarantino is my favorite director. I’ve only been lukewarm on one of his movies. And even then, I didn’t dislike it. Respect your opinion though.
Also, my two favorite movies are Pulp Fiction and The Fifth Element.
Question: How do you feel about Edgar Wright? Specifically Hot Fuzz and Baby Driver if you’ve seen those.
I reject most of what you’ve said, but I’m still up voting because I agree entirely about the big lebowski.