Brute force protection
It’s not quite complete without code on the password reset page to tell you that you can’t reuse your password.
And label the text box “username” when it only accepts email address.
Don’t forget to have hidden password requirements and secretly truncate any password longer than 12 characters.
Well yeah, if you don’t truncate the password to 12 chars how will you fit the plaintext in a memory efficient fixed latin1 CHAR column that only accepts letters, numbers, and underscores
/s
Battle.net used to not be case-sensitive for passwords, back in like the pre-wow era.
Intresting. At least they got their act together, even making a physical totp authenticator in the 2000s.
And then validate the email with a custom regex that definitely doesn’t account for all the valid syntax permutations defined by the several email-oriented RFCs
Only on mobile though, on desktop have different criteria. Perhaps give the text box an arbitrary max length of like 30 characters on sign-in but not on account creation.
You guys are evil - who shat on your pillow??
Hearsay
I never got that rule. Surely it is less secure to keep records of historical passwords than to let someone rotate between !!! And #### etc
Hopefully they’re not sitting the old passwords in plain text and just have the hashes.
Fine I’ll just change my password to what I thought it should be.
*New password cannot match old password
The one guy got grey hairs in-between slides lol
As a non programmer, is the joke that humans will retype their password assuming that they made a typo?
If so, sick indeed.
The guy coding made it so, on your first attempt, even if you answer correctly, it will tell you your login failed due to incorrect username or password, to joke about how it feels like you always get it wrong on the first try
The logic is bugging me, though. It should be
if isFirstAttempt || !isPasswordCorrect
I understand the meme is trying to convey in spite of being correct to still return an error, but then it doesn’t account for when the password is actually incorrect.
Like the other person said, it’s not meant to always fail the first time you enter any password.
It is meant to fail the first time you enter the correct password.
So it should be: if password == correct and first_success == true then { login failure; first_success = false }
Something like that.
That defeats the brute-force attack protection…
The idea is that brute-force attackers will only check each password once, while real users will likely assume they mistyped and retype the same password.
The code isn’t complete, and has nothing to do with actually incorrect passwords.
Yeah, hackers have automated tools and they will, of course, only try each password once.
@gibmiser
Yes exactly 😂
I remember in college editing OpenSSH source code to instead of return wrong password to a root shell prompt just to stop brute force attacks
But… arent they logged in as root then? Wdym with “prompt” i am lost
A honeypot!
I swear this is what some websites do
Cell phone lock screens too.
Also USB cords
And women
It’s true. I get my password wrong all the time.
Add a randomizer with 50/50 succeeding for this error
This could actually work though lol, it’s genius
Find a good password here 😏
Example of what My passwords are like :
%*7EfOLkN!8Dl#
or potentially if allowed :
W@c2wYnN9J3xGcyc47#ZkHJvt&Hm%q&Ad0b&Xwz#jnl4Th%6UBexD16a$YBFc@svnVrCBxXP0EpwLp6%Gk*Lom%@Qq#DjY1zsf0CzIrHHqPc8gt4edDVsg!omj*kIsIJ
Good luck guessing my shit.Amateur! Strong enough passwords are like:
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Try this on for size :
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You lever is very low! There are not displayable characters so you cannot easly verity the password by eye or copy from paper.
Why would I have to verify by eye? That’s what a password manager is for. And writing your passwords on paper? ಠ益ಠ
Sometimes you have to give a password to a friend on a paper or by a phone.
#ENHANCE
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Entropy so strong it makes quantum computers cry.
All I see is hunter2?
That’s the stupidest combination I’ve ever heard in my life! That’s the kinda thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
You fool, you utter buffoon -
This is what a strong enough password looks like
Rainbow tables and presumably newer stuff I haven’t heard of make this sort of thing weaker than it used to be
Salting makes rainbow tables pretty much useless, and salting has been a standard practise for a few decades now.
A few? I always had an easy time cracking my mom’s desktop password with them so I guess Microsoft wasn’t doing it with XP or Vista.
You do realize XP and Vista are few decades old?
No I’m a few decades old.
If they had the password right the first try, that isn’t a brute force attack, thats a credential leak.
It should be that it rejects the password the first time it’s entered correctly but accepts it on every subsequent try. That actually would provide some protection against like dictionary attacks and raw brute force attacks.
I think the author attempted first time login to be with the right password.
could also work in a brute force scenario, but first attempt would be not first attempt in a set amount of time but first attempt for each password by the user in a fixed amount of time
Don’t trust anyone - not even yourself
Well, I sometimes input the same password 15-times in a row, and it works only on the last try. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
if isFirst14Attempts
Not to be pedantic but wouldn’t it be IsFirstLoginWithAttemptedPassword or am I missing something?
No, it’s correct - say your password gets leaked across thousands of passwords. A hacker will try to crack all of them with a program that guesses them once, which as the image suggests defeats these types of programs
You’re right, and nothing wrong with being pedantic when working with code :)
no, since it first checks if the password is correct. if it is, display error message. if it is corrent and the second time, accept the password (code not in screenshot) but if the password is wrong, it doesnt check if it is the first attempt.
How does that stop a brute force attack? As written, it only stops the single luckiest brute force attack that happens to get the password right on their first try.
You can’t really prevent a brute force attack. Even if you prevent it from one IP or so, you can still do “distributed” brute force attacks.
Also only allowing one password per 5 seconds or so per IP will not work if you have lots of users and they are at work and have the same IP.
It wouldn’t stop most brute force attacks, which are not performed on the live web service, but rather on a password hasb list that was stolen via some other means.
That’s actually pretty smart
Password managers say hi
I’ve never used one
Bitwarden works well.
I feel like it’ll screw me when I need to log into accounts on devices like my TV or Google Home
I don’t really have “devices” that need logging into so i can’t help you, there.
This is negging for auth.
took me a solid 30 seconds of re-reading to get the joke
Best idea ever!!!