Democratic lawmakers are probing SpaceX over Russia’s reported use of Starlink in Ukraine, saying that recent developments raise questions about SpaceX’s “compliance with US sanctions and export controls.”
SpaceX CEO Elon Musk last month denied what he called “false news reports [that] claim that SpaceX is selling Starlink terminals to Russia,” saying that, “to the best of our knowledge, no Starlinks have been sold directly or indirectly to Russia.” But Musk’s statement didn’t satisfy US Reps. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) and Robert Garcia (D-Calif.), who sent a letter to SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell yesterday.
“Starlink is an invaluable resource for Ukrainians in their fight against Russia’s brutal and illegitimate invasion. It is alarming that Russia may be obtaining and using your technology to coordinate attacks against Ukrainian troops in illegally occupied regions in Eastern and Southern Ukraine, potentially in violation of US sanctions and export controls,” Raskin and Garcia wrote.
Musk has also stated that “Starlink satellites will not close the link in Russia.” However, the concerns raised by Rankin and Garcia are about whether Russia used the broadband service in Ukraine. Their letter said that Ukraine last month “released intercepted audio communications between Russian soldiers that indicated Russian forces had illegally deployed and activated Starlink terminals in certain Russian-occupied areas in Eastern Ukraine.”
How does the DOD find it acceptable that a corporation is actively profiting from providing infrastructure to the enemy.
Probably because they are not officially the enemy. Hopefully sanctions will be amended to fix this.
After explicitly denying the service to an ally.
More accurate TLDR of the article: He did explicitly deny it to an ally. Ukraine asked for it to be activated in Crimea and he said no.
Whether he should have or not is up to interpretation. He claimed that US sanctions didn’t allow it, but another time said he was preventing war. Why he gets to decide at all is ???.
He didn’t say he was preventing a war. Those are Isaacson’s words, not Elon’s. What Elon said is that enabling it would make SpaceX explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation. He also added that if the US government had reached out and told him to enable it he would have done so but they didn’t.
TL Actually read it, Yes.
I didn’t say he deactivated it.
I said he specifically declined to activate it for Ukraine when requested.
He makes no such qualms about Russia using his service.
The question in the title is: “Did Elon Musk Turn Off Starlink Access in Crimea To Disrupt Ukrainian Attack?”
The answer is no.
Why tf did you post that article if not to refute the assertion that he denied service? It doesn’t matter what the title of the article you posted is if it’s a total non-sequitur.
The vast majority of people are under the impression that Elon disabled Starlink there and when someone makes a comment like the one I replied to this is what they’re thinking about. The article I linked is there to educate these people. I’d be willing to bet that the person I was replying to was under this same impression aswell but obviously I can’t be sure about that. Only he knows.
Why the fuck are you carrying water for a racist sociopath?
Shit birds of a shit feather…
If you’re gonna hate someone, hate them for what they actually did, not for what their detractors want you to think they did.
Modern news media is fucking awash with cleverly worded half truths that are repeated so often, by so many who don’t take a moment for critical thought, that they become almost a rallying cry. It’s Hunter’s Laptop all over again, but aimed at the left.
No, the muskrat really is a piece of shit.
That’s an interesting clarification. Never heard about it (and I’m guessing most other people didn’t either)
That’s how propaganda works.
Absolutely true facts can be published, but simply picking and choosing certain details to withhold completely changes the story.
So pretty much what the vast majority of main stream media news does every day.
careful being so media savvy. you are going to be accused of siding with putin and hamas soon.
In a shocking twist, it turns out the DOD is owned by the corporations.
3 defense contractors in a trenchcoat.
Who is profiting from this exactly? I don’t undestand why people keep spreading this disinformation when not a single single article, including the one above, makes no accusations of SpaceX being complicit in it in anyway. The only thing they’re being criticized for, or rather questioned about is wether they’re doing enough to track the terminals near the front lines and making sure they’re not being used by sanctioned parties.
If you actually read the article you’d know that selling Starlink to Russia already is against the sanctions. It does not work in Russia or in the occupied territories. This is why the drone assault on the Crimea failed aswell. Not because Musk disabled Starlink but because it wasn’t enabled in the first place.
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Is this a rational discussion about what may be actually happening here in reality, or is this a circlejerk where everybody just repeats what we already know, which is that Elon sucks as a person? Let’s not become Reddit.
If you actually read what I said rather than what he responded and actually read the link he posted, you’ll see that I didn’t say he deactivated anything, I said he denied the service for an ally.
Elon explicitly denied to activate starlink in locations requested by Ukraine with a bullshit excuse that that would support war, while now making no qualms of Russia using the service for war.
That wasn’t my point. I’m just getting sick of seeing “Elon sucks” everywhere with no substance. We fucking get it already. You’re preaching to the choir on the fediverse.
Elon sucks
Elon explicitly denied to activate starlink in locations requested by Ukraine with a bullshit excuse that that would support war, while now making no qualms of Russia using the service for war.
JFC. This mess where Russian forces are using StarLink is exactly why they didn’t want to turn service on in those locations in the first place!
Practically speaking there’s no fucking way to tell the difference between two SL terminals; one being used by Russian’s and the other by Ukrainian’s, when both forces use the same language, are using them for the same things, the terminals are so close to each other, and many of the terminals are being paid for by 3rd parties!
The people that can’t see past the end of their nose were pissing their pants over it last summer so Starlink said “Fuck it, you want it? You got it!” and turned the service on in the areas requested by Ukraine.
Now that same group of diaper wearing mouth breathers are shitting themselves because the Russian’s are SURPRISE…using Starlink.
Do you want the damn system off? Because that’s the ONLY way to guarantee that the Russian’s can’t use it.
