• 3volver@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Do not believe polls. Vote regardless. Democracy prevails only if we vote in great numbers.

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    8 months ago

    The fact things are this close is amazingly disappointing in humanity as a whole.

    On the one side, you have Trump who wants to be a dictator, actively hates anyone who isn’t white and conervative, said he wants to kill his political opponents, tried to overthrow the government, had a 4 year presidency that was basically an episode of Jersey Shore everyday, and idolizes Putin/Hitler/etc.

    And then there is Biden, who isn’t super “exciting”, old AF, and supports Israel too much for political reasons, but otherwise has done an alright job as president for 4 years.

    How are the polls and the race even remotely this close? It’s no wonder we can’t do something like fix climate change as a society when people are this fracking stupid.

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      as a society when people are this fracking stupid.

      Remember all those times when a certain party cut back spending on education? That’s how we get to where we are today.

      It wasn’t just the judges that were part of a long-term plan.

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        I have a sister-in-law that thinks I’m crazy every time I say that the systematic sabotage of education is part of the plan to dumb down America and turn people into uneducated Republican voters.

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      8 months ago

      I plan to vote for Biden.

      I do not plan on telling any polls that. If Biden polls too well, I’m convinced voters will be complacent and risk not voting.

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      supports Israel too much for political reasons

      Now c’mon, does this statement really embrace reality? Aside from it’s toxic passivity, it’s not even true. Biden’s brand of support for Israel has been absolutely toxic politically. He supports Israel because it is the hub of US power projection in the Middle East.

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        He supports Israel because it is the hub of US power projection in the Middle East.

        How is that not a political reason?

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          what does that even mean? ‘ok he supports a genocidal ethnostate, but its only cause of power projection in the middleeast’

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            Exactly, it’s not that he, personally, wants to slaughter millions of Arabs, it’s just that that’s the price we have to pay to preserve the American ability to slaughter millions of other Arabs in the future.

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            Meh israel does not provide any security anymore. If anything they make the region less secure and unified against America.

            Saudi is bending over backwards to keep supporting israel for America.

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              Meh israel does not provide any security anymore.

              No disrespect meant, but that is a factually ignorant statement to make. We regular people don’t see allot of whats going on in the background.

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                No we just see israel committing Genocide after Genocide and destabilizing the entire middle east.

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                  We regular people don’t see allot of whats going on in the background.

                  No we just see israel committing Genocide after Genocide and destabilizing the entire middle east.

                  Exactly. We don’t see all the behind the scenes stuff for security reasons.

                  Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think any military/country is allowed to kill civilians to get to their enemies, ever. A country doesn’t get to use an ‘our enemies are in that population zone so we can destroy the population zone to get to them’ excuse.

                  But there’s a lot of history, security wise, going on between America and Israel, that is not so easily dismissed.

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      Most people don’t understand probability, they must never have spent any time grinding low % drop rates. Things that have a 28.6% chance are not mind-blowing when they happen.

      But, nonetheless it’s a very good reminder that hopefully people will learn from. But people en masse learning a lesson beyond a single 4 year period, let alone two, well now that would be mind-blowing.

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      Voting for 3rd party means tacitly supporting the candidate leading in the polls. Trump leads in the polls. A vote for RFK is a vote that Biden could use to beat Trump. Also, calling Biden and Trump “garbage candidates” is reductive and just plain wrong. We saw what Trump did for 4 years, and we’ve read Project 2025. Biden is the only ethical vote. But go off, king.