A lot of these Star Wars stories, especially the newer ones, focus far too much on the actions of a few “destiny” babies whose achievements you basically never doubt because of the golden carpet rolled out for them wherever they go. They’re stories designed around hero roles to appeal to the narcissist in all of us, classic Disney princess style.
Rogue One and Andor made me believe in people again. The actions of a few counted, sure, but it was the actions of the many that drove the story forward and was by far the most inspiring thing to come out of the entire series.
Meh… Rogue One is only a masterpiece when compared to the other Disney SW movies. Compared to all movies, it’s … pretty good, but “masterpiece” is a big stretch.
I’d argue that every single star wars movie has been cheap or just decent enough compared to some of their shows and animated series. Honestly, the best works were probably season 1 of Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Andor and Rogue One.
Sure, we have rose colored sunglasses when we look back to the OG trilogy, but their better works weren’t part of the mainline trilogies.
I understand the first three, but I have to fundamentally disagree with you as much as humanly possible on Rogue One being terrible. I absolutely respect your right and and opinion to think so, but for me it’s one of the best representations of what Star Wars should be in the space fiction genre.
What was it about Rogue One that bothered you so much that you couldn’t finish?
Cardboard characters, plot holes, and going against everything the original trilogy stood for.
It got on my bad side when they introduced Cassian by having him murder a completely innocent person, something the Empire would do.
Then, later in the film, when it’s his fucking job to assassinate a legitimate military target, he gets all sweaty and - OH - JUST… CAN’T… PULL… THE… TRIGGER… No explanation, no character development… just because… That was when I walked out.
The real reason of course, is more complicated. The original writer/director fucked things up so colossally he was actually removed from the picture and a new guy was brought in to re-write and re-shoot. Cassian’s change in tone was because of the two different creators.
I also found Rogue One incredibly overrated. Nothing that they play up feels earned, and I didn’t get invested at all, possibly for some of the reasons you mentioned.
I’ve been to movies so terrible I left!
Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan
https://youtu.be/vhidWw1yWR8
A Passage to India
https://youtu.be/UxaPT6UbdAE
Hackers
https://youtu.be/Rn2cf_wJ4f4
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
https://youtu.be/frdj1zb9sMY
Rogue One is easily the best Star Wars movie since the original trilogy.
but that’s not a high bar.
A lot of these Star Wars stories, especially the newer ones, focus far too much on the actions of a few “destiny” babies whose achievements you basically never doubt because of the golden carpet rolled out for them wherever they go. They’re stories designed around hero roles to appeal to the narcissist in all of us, classic Disney princess style.
Rogue One and Andor made me believe in people again. The actions of a few counted, sure, but it was the actions of the many that drove the story forward and was by far the most inspiring thing to come out of the entire series.
It’s not even a good movie, much less a good Star Wars movie.
There are longer absolute takedowns of it, but I like this one:
https://youtu.be/PSdg8V2P62c
Hackers is a masterpiece.
So is Rogue One. This guy has an odd view of what a bad movie is that’s for sure.
Meh… Rogue One is only a masterpiece when compared to the other Disney SW movies. Compared to all movies, it’s … pretty good, but “masterpiece” is a big stretch.
I’d argue that every single star wars movie has been cheap or just decent enough compared to some of their shows and animated series. Honestly, the best works were probably season 1 of Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Andor and Rogue One.
Sure, we have rose colored sunglasses when we look back to the OG trilogy, but their better works weren’t part of the mainline trilogies.
Yea the other content definitely beats the movirs. Even a good few games are quite excellent.
Not really, I loved the original trilogy that Rogue One dumps all over.
https://youtu.be/PSdg8V2P62c
Rogue One is mid. I wouldn’t walk out but also, it’s not one I’d have paid to see in the theater in the first place.
HACK THE PLANET!!!
I understand the first three, but I have to fundamentally disagree with you as much as humanly possible on Rogue One being terrible. I absolutely respect your right and and opinion to think so, but for me it’s one of the best representations of what Star Wars should be in the space fiction genre.
What was it about Rogue One that bothered you so much that you couldn’t finish?
You are correct and the other person is incorrect. Or possibly trolling.
I didn’t like Rogue One either. 🤷🏻♂️
Cardboard characters, plot holes, and going against everything the original trilogy stood for.
It got on my bad side when they introduced Cassian by having him murder a completely innocent person, something the Empire would do.
Then, later in the film, when it’s his fucking job to assassinate a legitimate military target, he gets all sweaty and - OH - JUST… CAN’T… PULL… THE… TRIGGER… No explanation, no character development… just because… That was when I walked out.
The real reason of course, is more complicated. The original writer/director fucked things up so colossally he was actually removed from the picture and a new guy was brought in to re-write and re-shoot. Cassian’s change in tone was because of the two different creators.
I also found Rogue One incredibly overrated. Nothing that they play up feels earned, and I didn’t get invested at all, possibly for some of the reasons you mentioned.