Just to be clear, this was an elderly Palestinian man cowering under a bed who came out with his hands up and was murdered by an Israeli soldier who brags about it after.

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      This is literally one of the steps to building a fascist state. Israel is speed running to a fascist theocracy.

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      The UN has also compared the rate of killing to Rwanda. Specifically worse than in any conflict since Rwanda.

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      I remember around 10 years ago, there were some videos of what the youth were taught in school, and interviews with young adults about their opinion of Palestinians.

      To sum it up, they were taught they were filth, sub human, in ~grade school ages. Young adults “sympathized” that they had tough lives, but they should go elsewhere, anywhere else, and that if they didn’t, they should die.

      It was in the context of that anti missile defense, and living in Isreal with frequent missile/terror attacks, and how Palestinians were segregated, had long lines to enter the city, couldn’t use the same roads, kids throwing rocks at cars, etc.

      So yeah, this genocide is hardly surprising. They’ve been dehumanizing the Palestinians for generations, straight up indoctrinating their children. So the IDF murdering them like some rabid dogs was exactly the goal.

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      Woah, interdimensional communication! I just want to say you’re lucky you get to live in the universe where justice is actually served to those that deserve it!

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      Holy fucking shit that is despicable.

      They brag about killing an unarmed man cowering under a bed.

      Then they congratulate the killer.

      Then they go back to shoot at the corpse.

      What. The. Fucking. Hell.

      And I can’t do anything about it except keep up some degree of internet activism, but that doesn’t really alleviate that feeling of needing to do something.

      I hope that video gets around and ruins the life of this Lior named person who did the killing. As in I hope he faces some motherfucking consequences for this horrible stuff.

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    To be fair, that area is considered an active war zone, and all civillians knew that way ahead of the invasion.

    If it was intentional, fuck him. But if it was by mistake and as a precaution against Hamas (who are known to wear civilian clothes) - then you really can’t blame them for not wanting to be ambushed.

    How are ya’ll expecting an army to act in a war zone?

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      War zone? All of Gaza is a war zone. Go to the safe zones? Where there is no water, food, or shelter. Oh and they’ll shot you and bomb you there too.

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      From the article / post: " The soldier who fired the shots describes entering the home and encountering only one unarmed Palestinian, gesturing and saying, ‘No, no.’ "

      He openly admits to shooting an unarmed Palestinian man.

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        Again, if it was as a precaution against an ambush (which is known to be basically the only way Hamas fights) then you can’t blame him.

        That man is poor for being in that spot, but what legit what can you expect from soldiers in a war zone where every day an ambush happens.

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      To be fair, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

      1, Hamas is a political party, literally voted into power. Not all members would be militia.
      B, Even if the man was of the militant arm, in full uniform and battle-rattle, killing a surrendered foe is murder and a war crime.

      This coming from my experience as a Marine having acted in war zones in Iraq and Afghanistan, that were occupied by many civilians and combatants.

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        “hamas is a political party” is the same energy as “north korea is a political party” and “china is a political party”. No elections in 18 years isn’t something a working government does.

        And it’s widely known that Hamas has no uniforms, and use civilian clothing when fighting. Heck, on 7/10 there were plenty who were IDF uniforms (I guess from fallen soldiers). Differentiating based on clothes is legit impossible.

        And about surrendered foes, I completely agree. No reason if you know they’re of no harm. But again, based on what Israel tells us (I doubt it aswell, but idk) there were instances of people “surrendering” and then bombing themselves. Not a trustworthy source at all, but idk… It’s not that hard to believe it.

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      “Hey man, your house is a war zone now, you should leave”

      “Cool, can I leave to a safe place?”

      “Well no, we’ll shoot you as you’re leaving, bomb refugee camps, and prevent foreign aid from reaching you.”

      “Cool cool, guess I’ll go fuck myself then.”

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        “Oh then I guess I’ll just won’t leave my home and wait for certain death to come to me”

        Bro WHAT. How is it even the IDF’s responsibility to provide safe spaces in Gaza? Did Hamas provide “safe spaces” on 7/10? Did Hezbollah provide “safe spaces” before bombing houses? No one expects them to do anything before attacking, but everyone expects Israel to not only tell before an attack to evacuate, but to secure that evacuation place. That’s such hypocrisy.

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      Well, less rapy and genocidy, maybe?

      You really have to explain the “to he fair” part here, when the subject line is a soldier bragging about shooting an innocent old man by justifying it with "well he was a palestinian terrorist

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        “less rapy and genocidy” you mean… Like exactly what Hamas did that started this whole war, who got that old man killed? Then sure. I expect every human to not rape and kill innocents.

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          Yeah, exactly like Hamas who all too should be jailed for life for their crimes, exactly like the Israeli government and heads of army.

          Are you really trying to justify raping and murdering by saying “but they did it first!”?

          In that case, fuck the Israeli government even more because they’ve been doing this shit for over 50 years now. Is this really the first time you hear about innocent Palestinians being murdered? I’ve heard it since I was a little boy and oh boy is that long ago!

          You’re pathetic.