• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    The law and its premise is nuts, lets just get that out of the way first.

    “The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight is prohibited,” the bill reads.

    So on one hand this is a reading about banning any efforts of geoengineering. But modern day airplanes already dump “chemical compounds” into Tennessee airspace today as part of jet engine exhaust. The argument would be “oh, planes are okay because they’re not dumping to affect weather even though those gases are affecting the weather via climate change.” Doesn’t that argument open up license for anyone to dump whatever they want (including geoengineering materials) if they can claim that isn’t their primary purpose?

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      I mean, planes already inject, release, or disperse a lot of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances into the atmosphere, namely CO2 and water, which is why there are contrails.

      Did Tennessee just ban airplanes?

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        “With the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of sunlight.”

        I’m pretty sure they just made it so polluters are fine if the they are just doing it to pollute and don’t give a fuck about climate change

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        *instructions unclear - CO2 emissions violate this new law; henceforth, airplanes are illegal in Tennessee

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      Damn.

      That is WAAAY moar worser…

      You know that tornadoes are already prevented through cloud-alteration, right?

      This would criminalize that?


      We need to criminalize incompetence-in-authority!!

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        We need to criminalize incompetence-in-authority!!

        I don’t think that’s possible. There won’t be any governments left.

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      wouldnt that be great! some local citizen should sue an airline, using this bill, for affecting the climate.

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    Fucking Chemtrails. I have MS and one of the times I was in a physical rehabilitation clinic, relearning how to walk, I had a nurse who believed in chemtrails. She asked if I realized that my MS was caused by chemtrails. I was taken aback. I was actively playing civ with a friend who heard my side of the conversation. After she said that, I had a short conversation with her about how chemtrails aren’t real. She said “Well I guess all those congressional hearings I watched were fake.” To which I said that we are never going to agree on this and it’s better to just stop talking so we don’t have an argument. She basically agreed and thankfully she was gone by the time I needed my MS meds that evening. Chemtrails are BS and yet so many people believe they’re real, even in professions that should understand they’re not real, that it is genuinely depressing.

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        M.D. here and I feel like I should defend myself but all I can think of was this highly trained doc who fought the hospital administration about having to wear masks, in the hospital, during peak Covid. I mean he was actually one of many but what made him stand out was that his wife was in our ICU. With Covid. Yes he continued to fight masking even as his own wife was near death in the ICU.

        So, yeah.

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          Well he can just fuck right off

          …like, out of the hospital

          …preferably out of his profession entirely, if possible

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          its just there are over 20 currently agreed upon “types” of intelligence, so people can be very sharp in some ways and utterly hopeless in others.

          Most doctors are put together pretty well in my experience though

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            You are so absolutely correct about this. This gentleman I refer to is actually a very smart guy in many ways. But say it with me folks: You are not immune to propaganda.

            This gentleman was drinking the Fox News tea big time and that’s where the anti-mask, anti-vaccine stuff was coming from. His training and years of knowledge just eventually got short circuited from the constant propaganda.

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      that’s disturbing, I’m very sorry you had to deal with that, having someone you were supposed to trust with your health, who suddenly pulled back the curtain and revealed themselves as an utter moron.

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    Breaking news: Party that built its entire platform on a stupid conspiracy theory now expanding platform to other stupid conspiracy theories.

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          You know, I overnighted in Idaho twice a couple of years ago, when driving across the country. Both times I stopped in a Lolo National Forest and camped, saw no one, spoke to no one.

          I’m thinking that was probably the best case scenario. I’m quite certain I didn’t even stop for fuel within Idaho’s borders.

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            I live in Jackson, Wyoming. We and Idaho have twin Teton Counties which are affectionately referred to as “Wydaho”. It is, with no hyperbole, the greatest place I have ever lived in. The problem is always the psychotic state government. The locals are actually VERY nice, especially on the less crowded Idaho side.

            EDIT: The parts of Kentucky, Arkansas, and Tennessee I have seen are also very beautiful.

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            We had to drive from Oregon to Montana a few times during the pandemic years and made sure not to stop for gas in Idaho.

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      And it sucks. We loved going to Nashville and other parts for concerts, the food, etc but we can’t support this insanity. We decided to nix Tennessee with the last big news story and now this.

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      Not exactly. The issue is that we have let the idiot’s take control. We have let the idea of democracy and civility lead us to this mess. Those of us with working brains need to start yelling louder than the morons and tell them to sit down and shut the fuck up because the adults are taking back control.

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        You can’t control a cult because they reinforce each other constantly. It’s like trying to reform an alcoholic when all his friends, co-workers and associates are drunks and he lives right above a bar.

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          when all his friends, co-workers and associates are drunks and he lives right above a bar.

          Do you know me? I feel like you’re talking about me.

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        Is it working?

        Or have we defunded education and science for 50 years, and now we have a nation of idiots?

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    Oh good. Mission accomplished. I guess they’ll have time now to go after the real issues, like… What’s inside everyone’s pants when going to the bathroom. Or making sure women don’t have access to health care when needed. Even ensuring priests are in every school…

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    The bill would have some merit if it just hadn’t tacked on the chemtrail nonsense. The issue of geoengineering and how one group or country’s activities can affect others negatively is valid concern, but it goes far beyond protecting a single state within its borders. Is Tennessee going to sue states west and south of them because weather movement there ends up spawning tornadoes in TN? The environment is shared, we all have to act together.

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      Lol you assume they understand words, consequences, correlations, and causality. They understand nothing other than “what’s mine is mine and fuck you”

      This bill was nothing other than idiots discussing chemicals, we all know this, don’t pretend they were almost smart. They aren’t.

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      Everyone knows the weather is very polite and will respect the imaginary lines we drew /s

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    In related news, The boogeyman, Sasquach, and Godzilla are also forbidden to enter Tennessee. The rainbow has been officially reclaimed from the homosexuals that stole it from God, but the bill to build a wall to keep out the gay frogs died in committee over funding issues (Mexico refused to pay for it).

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    Its about time, maybe now my wife will come back and listen to me knowing that we can finally live with clean air and no more frogs turnin gay

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    I would actually almost be willing to support a stupid bill for stupid people if all it did was ban the stupid chemtrail conspiracy ideas and not actual genuinely useful tools like cloud seeding and other legitimate weather engineering. If they just said “it is hereafter illegal to intentionally inject chemicals into exhaust that turn people liberal or make frogs gay” then sure, at least then the chemtrail idiots could shut up and finally believe the planes aren’t (deliberately) poisoning them due to their hard work and diligence.

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    I would be down for it if they had just accidentally banned air travel. Air travel is pretty much intentional changing of the environment when there are other methods of travel available.