Let’s see how the anti-Biden tankies try to spin this one.
They probably just won’t recognize any facts that challenge their worldview.
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You should post it to !news@hexbear.net and really rile them up!
Not a fan of them posting pictures of themselves shitting on their own testicles. It’s weird.
The Russian deputy ambassador to the UN, Dmitry Polyanskiy, warned reporters on Thursday: “We are not satisfied with anything which doesn’t call for an immediate ceasefire.”
He argued that the effect of making a ceasefire conditional on the release of all hostages would be to endorse leaving hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians exposed to continued Israeli attacks until the point when Hamas and Isreal reached an agreement.
In the chamber, the Russian ambassador Vasily Nebenzya told the security council the resolution was a “hypocritical spectacle” that put no real pressure on Israel over its war crimes. Moscow also said the episode showed the US administration was more interested in throwing a bone to American voters and persuading a domestic audience it was being even-handed in the crisis. Source
So. Mission Accomplished.
I’m waiting for one of them to comment and go on an unhinged rant.
Oh yay! Biden is on the same side as Putin and Xi, in disagreement with the rest of the world.
Not quite the win I think you’re going for there.
The United Nations Security Council has failed to pass a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza as part of a hostage deal after Russia and China, who are permanent members, voted against the measure proposed by the United States.
It’s literally the first paragraph of the article.
Yes, so now ceasefire resolutions have been vetoed by Biden, Putin, and Xi. Good company.
Biden, through the US delegation, proposed this resolution, which Putin and Xi, through their delegations, vetoed. They’re literally on opposite sides of the issue.
The US was vetoing ceasefire resolutions before this.
And now it’s Russia and China vetoing the US resolution calling for a ceasefire, hence the article.
I was explaining how they’re the same. You know, for someone who likes explaining the obvious, you really did miss out on this obvious point being made, twice.
So because the US vetoed a measure earlier, them proposing a ceasefire now is grounds for Russia/China to veto?
You sound like someone who thinks “no u” is a strong argument.
They vetoing it because the US proposed a conditional ceasefire while Russia and China want an immediate unconditional ceasefire.
this makes me suspect even more it has been incited by russia as a distraction. i mean the situation was messed up in israel/palestine for like 80 years, but suddenly when russia has problems invading a country, it escalates. coincidence? i doubt it.
I mean Iran is Russia’s link to this shit, and Iran has been distancing the fuck out of their relationship with Hamas since the attack, which implies Hamas jumped the gun, which implies Iran doesn’t have as much control over them as they’d like, which means Russia would have even less ability to direct the action.
Mmm. Did Russia even need to incite it, or just toss gasoline on the flames that are already burning?
The goal is to weaken west by causing conflict and division.
I doubt it, because their vote doesn’t indicate that Russia or China want to avoid a ceasefire. Russia and China both know that the US would vote against it anyway, which means that their vote won’t alter the situation anyway, so both Russia and China are free to vote in whatever way they think is most politically-appealing; their vote is decoupled from what they want to happen.
You could say that it’s surprising that they wanted the political appearance of opposing a ceasefire, though. I don’t know what considerations factor into that.
EDIT: Oh, wait, this is one that the US proposed, so it’s probably on terms that Israel would accept.
Suddenly? War had been going for quite some time at the moment of Hamas attack.
Seems like every offer that demands that the hostages be released gets rejected. Wonder if that means they don’t have as many living hostages as Israel believes.
Hopefully this can come to a conclusion quickly but it seems like various parties are making that more difficult all around.
Probably more about the condition of the female hostages
Previous reports have shown that hostages were treated well. What propaganda have you been imbibing?
PS: Sexual assaults on Oct 7 have thus far not been corroborated by anyone. That was all bullshit.
The UN conducted a preliminary investigation and found clear and convincing evidence of rape, gang rape, sexualized torture, and even sex with the corpses. Just think about that for moment and imagine what those poor female hostages are almost certainly going through right now. Disgusting. Hamas is the absolute scum of the earth.
From the UN report:
Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed.
In the context of the coordinated attack by Hamas and other armed groups against civilian and military targets throughout the Gaza periphery, the mission team found that there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred in multiple locations during the 7 October attacks, including rape and gang-rape in at least three locations, namely: the Nova music festival site and its surroundings, Road 232, and Kibbutz Re’im. In most of these incidents, victims first subjected to rape were then killed, and at least two incidents relate to the rape of women’s corpses.
https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/
The important part that makes this propaganda:
The visit was neither intended nor mandated to be investigative in nature, a mandate vested in other United Nations bodies, which have promptly signaled their willingness and availability to investigate all alleged violations committed in the context of the 7 October attacks and their aftermath.
That’s why I said preliminary investigation. They said that there was enough clear and convincing evidence to warrant a full investigation by a range of UN bodies. That doesn’t make it propaganda, you troll. It means that they are certain that sexual violence occurred, just not the full extent of it.
But it is exactly this UN investigation, chaired by Navi Pillay and already underway, that the Israeli government has repeatedly blocked. On January 15, for example, Israel instructed physicians who had treated October 7 survivors not to cooperate with UN investigators. Source
How could they know that sexual violence occurred, when they weren’t able to investigate? Did they take the word of Israeli officials?
Ironically, it is the absence of any ability or power to investigate that likely induced Israel to extend an invitation to Patten. This was despite Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the official UN investigation currently underway.
So, rather than believe the words of the UN report, the 5000 photographs and the 50 hours of video they reviewed, you are proposing a conspiracy theory that the Israeli government’s reason for refusing to cooperate with certain people in certain ways means that the rapes never happened? Dude…
Dude, you are a horrible human being.
So if the US was vetoing previous ceasefire resolutions, what makes their proposed ceasefire resolution different?
While the US promoted the measure as calling for a ceasefire, critics pointed out that the draft falls short of demanding an end to the war.
The proposal backs the “imperative” for “an immediate and sustained ceasefire to protect civilians on all sides”, differing from previous draft resolutions vetoed by Washington, which demanded an unconditional ceasefire.
Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, said the draft was exceedingly politicised and contained an “effective green light” for Israel to mount a military operation in Gaza’s southernmost city of Rafah, where more than 1.5 million Palestinians are sheltering.
Nebenzia said there was no call for a ceasefire in the resolution’s text and accused the US leadership of “deliberately misleading the international community”.
China’s representative, Zhang Jun, said the draft “dodged the most central issue, that of a ceasefire” through its “ambiguous” language.
“Nor does it even provide an answer to the question of realising a ceasefire in the short term,” he added. Source
For the surprise of 0 people
What the actual fuck.
