“There’s this wild disconnect between what people are experiencing and what economists are experiencing,” says Nikki Cimino, a recruiter in Denver.

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    8 months ago

    “We had more money when Trump was president,” she said, noting that three years ago her credit card debt was less than half of what it is now.

    Oh boy, that’s gonna upset some people.

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      Only people dumb enough not to connect the strong economy under Trump to Obama, or the current issues to Trump.

      Too bad that’s the majority of people.

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        “He’s gonna come back and run the country like a business again!”

        Yeah, his businesses that routinely fail and he bails out on.

        Also, its a country, not a company, assholes. People matter more than our bottom line.

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      When Covid hit and lockdowns started, it was reasonable to think that the world as we know it might be ending. I was scared for sure and had started making contingency plans to flee to the mountains in a U-Haul full of canned foods and water.

      Things are manageable now despite people still dying from Covid. Big corporate has been milking us since, as if their profits today are the last dollars they will ever make, and so it goes that they squeeze and squeeze and squeeze.

      It takes a special kind of ignorance to ignore the impacts of Covid which were made worse by the inaction of trump, the fucking idiot, and say something as blitheringly stupid as ‘well I had more money when trump was president ahardy har har’

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        I’m just going to say it absolutely was not reasonable to believe the world was ending. It was bad, made far worse by people who thought it was reasonable to cough and sneeze and spit on others, on food, and mass purchase hundreds of dollars of toilet paper. However, “world ending” is a bit sensationalist and only the easily fooled and unreasonable people justified such viewpoints.

        Putting aside the tragic losses caused by Covid, both directly and indirectly, those three years might be argued as having been a chance to shift climate talks and the more negative cultural expectations experienced in developed nations, and especially the U.S. Hell, even the air itself was clearly up.

        I recognize this is a hot take and am not in any way attempting to downplay how damaging Covid was to many families. It’s just such a damned shame a chance to change for the better ended up with where we are now. Further struggling, more homeless, greedflation, and an incessant need to argue amongst ourselves.

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          Agreed that it is a shame the world hasn’t changed for the better, but completely unrelated is the fact that there were a few months there where absolutely nobody knew just how bad it was going to get.

          Only easily fooled unreasonable people were convinced one way or another when there was no scientific consensus on if the virus was going to kill 1 million or 1 billion, or somewhere in between.

          It’s easy to look back and say ‘well it wasn’t world ending so it was irrational to have that fear’, but when millions are dying, you aren’t allowed to leave your house, and experts are saying that they don’t know how bad this is going to get, I would say that it was reasonable to be worried.

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          ended up with where we are now. Further struggling, more homeless, greedflation, and an incessant need to argue amongst ourselves.

          Gotta hand it to the politicians, they played a master game of locking us against ourselves. Hard to meet the other side halfway when one of you is literally trying to strip the rights from… everybody??

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      That works the other way too. The second half of the Trump administration brought three separate events into my life that would each be financially devastating on their own. I went from debt free except mortgage and a proper emergency fund to now, even with a higher salary, I’m scraping by and have a bunch of debt to pay off.

      But I’m one of those people that knows that the President doesn’t directly control my financial situation. Trump sure as shit didn’t improve anything he touched, and I could see things in my life being a bit different if he was remotely competent with Covid, sure. I had more money at the end of the Obama administration than the end of the Trump administration. But even if that were swapped I don’t see that as a compelling reason to vote for a corrupt narcissistic rapey wannabe dictator.