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    11 months ago

    Been hearing on the radio all kinds of Comcast ads like “we’ve raised our internet speeds for free!” I knew there was something else at play.

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      I’m loving my t mobile 5g gateway in my area. No packet loss, ping around 50, and my last game download held over 200Mbps the entire time for a flat rate of $30 a month. Works a lot better than the cable net I had.

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        What’s the data cap?

        For shit Comcast it is 1TB which is ridiculously low.

        Then they also completely lie to your face about your metrics to make it look like you are always constantly almost at the 1TB cap.

        My mom in America just had xfinity installed last fall at her house. She barely uses the internet besides web shopping, articles, and some Netflix. Every month she was somehow at 950-980GB. New WiFi password so there isn’t an intrusion, her computer was fine, there is no way she is using that much. Comcast just lies to your face to higher data caps. Data caps for internet should be illegal as it is.

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          There’s not a “cap” but beyond 1.2TB you will get moved to low priority on your cell tower, so if there’s any network congestion your internet will go to shit.

          I’ve never ran into this issue since I live in a sweet spot thats close to a tower and doesn’t have any high occupancy buildings or heavy road traffic that would cause congestion.

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          Iirc tmo has 2 tiers. One with a smallish cap and one that throttles based on tower capacity when you hit something like 30 or 50tb. I had the 30 day trial and I’ve considered getting it as a backup to our cable internet, I’ve held off because most of the time if the cable is out, it’s a bigger issue like a power outage that also eventually takes down the towers as well, plus I think where we are there is only one tower that we connect to and when it goes down we switch to another much further away with barely any signal.

          I have spectrum gigabit down and they cap us at like 35 up. I’m watching and waiting while 3 companies aside from spectrum and att rollout fiber all over town. I’m hoping that eventually they get to us. We live in the outskirts and one of the companies expanded south from north of us so I have reason to hope they get to us eventually.

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        I also have T-Mobile 5G. I once had the luxury of being able to buy fiber 1G up/down before I moved to a new area and that was the absolute best of any ISP I’ve ever had. Now my only real option with a physical connection is Xfinity copper that was offering 200mbps down 10 mbps up for just $50/mo* terms and conditions apply. $50 is the promotional price for this offer. After one year this offer will expire. Then every year id have to field a call from their promotional dept. offering a 100mbps increase to my speeds for just $5 more per month rather than losing the promotional price and the bill costing $80 with no increase. The straw that broke the camel’s back was an attempt to charge an extra $5 a month for using autopay with a debit card. I could save that fee by switching to using my bank’s routing number. So I told Comcast 🖕and switched.

        My favorite story though is when an Xfinity rep called me to ask about who provides my cell phone service. When I told them that i use Mint mobile and pay $20/mo for 20GB of data or whatever it was at the time, they just straight up told me, “Oh gotcha. Yeah, we can’t compete at that price.” Then hung up 😂

        My only real gripe with T-Mobile so far is that if your price is accurate, then I’m paying an extra $15/mo just based on location despite there being no physical difference in our connection. Also i don’t like that I’m unable to do any port forwarding on T-Mobile so it prevents me from running my Jellyfin server and PiHole from home and being able to use it anywhere.

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          I’m “locked in” at t-mo on price and also have my cell phone with t-mobile. If you aren’t on a cell phone plan with them I think they were charging $50 a month. I don’t know how long they were offering the $30 deal. I swapped to them pretty early on them having it.

          As for your port forwarding issue, t mobiles gateway may not offer that, but it has an ethernet port. Why don’t you plug your own wifi router into that and set up port forwarding there and then just treat the gateway as a modem?

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            I already have my own router connected to it, but I’m a very amateur networker. I taught myself pretty much everything I know through tutorials and blog posts. As far as my knowledge extends, there’s no way to open public facing ports through the T-Mobile firewall.

            My current workaround is just hosting it on my parent’s network and using SCP to transfer my linux ISOs to the server. (Which…sidenote…why were we never taught anything about the SCP command in any computer courses in school?)

        • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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          11 months ago

          I don’t think tailscale (headscale for foss) requires pf. I could be remembering wrong, so don’t hold me to it, but worth a look.

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        11 months ago

        Threads like this make me cherish my symmetrical gigabit fiber connection all the more.

        I hear we’ll be getting 2 gigabit in the near future, too.

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          That’s all well and good, but I have no need for gigabit. Online games use very little (heck, starcraft worked great on dial up), and streaming only takes 15Mb most of the time. I’m only paying $30 a month. For that, I’m fine with doing something else for a while during the rare occasion I’m downloading some huge pc game or something.

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      I’d argue that the main driver for all of this is the increased rollout of fiber. Companies like AT&T started broadly rolling out gigabit plans for what people were paying for sub 50 megabit cable plans. And the lines handled neighborhood network congestion better.

      Comcast has to figure out how to be competitive, or they are going to get their asses handed to them.

      AT&T and Comcast are both terrible companies with horrible customer service, but fiber is always going to be better than copper.

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      I am so fucking happy my area has GloFiber. Fiber for cheaper than Verison and I don’t have to deal with those Comcast bastards.

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      Nah, they’ve been doing that for years. In the two years since I first got my service at my house I went from 200gig to 800gig with no price increase. It’s p SOP these days when network upgrades take place in your area.

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    Fuck that, instead of making them increase their imaginary “up to” numbers, make them advertise contractually guaranteed minimums. Id rather have a 25 mb minimum over a 100 mb maximum that usually sits around 8 mb.

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      When I bought internet services and colocated with major carriers every contract came with a Quality of Service rider that stipulated guaranteed quality and quantity of service. If my metrics fell below those minimums I had recourse. But, I could not extend that to my customers because they were using a shared resource I was providing. In general, though, I agree that there should be a QOS with every user connection.

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    100mbps symmetric should be minimum standard. 100mbps down with 10mbps up is worse than remote islands with mud huts. Seriously, I was on a Pacific island that looked like what an after hurricane photo op does, and they had direct access to the fiber cables. So gigabit symmetric internet ONTs glued to the side of huts for a few bucks a month.

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      I fear that will only happen when storage manufacturers are forced to use 1024 bytes per KB like everyone else.

      In fairness it’s a very longstanding tradition that serial transfer devices measure the speed in bits per second rather than bytes. Bytes used to be variable size, although we settled on eight a long time ago.

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        1024 bytes per KB

        Technically, it’s 1000 bytes per KB and 1024 bytes per KiB. Hard drive manufacturers are simply using a different unit.

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        Base 10 is correct and more understandable by humans. Everyone uses it except Windows and old tools. macOS, Android (AOSP), etc.

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          Found the hard drive manufacturer.

          It’s 1024. It’s always been 1024. It’ll always be 1024.

          Unless fo course we should start using 17.2GB RAM sticks.

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            There’s a conflict between the linguistic and practical implications here.

            “kilo-“ means 1,000 everywhere. 1,000 is literally the definition of “kilo-“. In theory, it’s a good thing we created “kibi-“ to mean 2^10 (1024).

            Why does everyone expect a kilobyte to be 1024 bytes, then? Because “kibi-“ didn’t exist yet, and some dumb fucking IBM(?) engineers decided that 1,000 was close enough to 1,024 and called it a day. That legacy carries over to today, where most people expect “kilo-“ to mean 1024 within the context of computing.

            Since product terminology should generally match what the end-user expects it to mean, perhaps we should redefine “kilobyte” to mean 1024 bytes. That runs into another problem, though: if we change it now, when you look at a 512GB SSD, you’ll have to ask, “512 old gigabytes or 512 new gigabytes?”, arguably creating even more of a mess than we already have. That problem is why “kibi-“ was invented in the first place.

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              It’s not just the difference between kilo- and kibi-. It’s also the difference between bits and bytes. A kilobit is only 125 eight-bit bytes, whereas a kilobyte is 8,000 bits.

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          Computers run on binary, base 2. 1000 vs 1024, one is byte aligned(2^10), the other is not.

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            Thats an irrelevant technical detail for modern storage. We regularly use billions, trillions of bytes. The world has mostly standardized on base 10 for large numbers as it’s easy to understand and convert.

            Literally all of the devices I own use this.

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    11 months ago

    Altice (Optimum) took this opportunity to cut upload speeds from 35mbps to 20 under the guise of the “free upgrade”. You want your old upload speeds back? Oh that’s their most expensive tier now.

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      I’m dropping them, it was too unreliable for work from home. I pay twice as much now for fios

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      Same for my “XFinity” (Comcast) service. Literally the only plan with more than 20 up is the most expensive tier with 1200/35. Sadly, it has been that way for several years… but this year they had no choice but to jack up all rates across the board so the most expensive tier is now $30 more expensive ($90 -> $120). No other competition so… that’s that.

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    I care more for stability and low latency, not so much speed.

    Offering me a faster cellular or satellite connections doesn’t interest me.

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      A 4x increase for download and a 7x increase requirment for upload.

      That’s a pretty solid improvement, honestly. They also have plans on whne to increase it to 1Gbps down/500Mbps up, so it seems like they are taking it seriously.

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        my third world country’s internet has a minimum of 100mbps on most internet plans in the cities.

        100mbps in the supposed best country in the world is shit, no matter how higher it is than 2003 standards.

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      lol I’ve never had anything over 12Mb/s. Currently have 8Mb/s, which costs roughly half than what I use to pay for 500kb/s

      I would love to have 100Mb/s. Hell even half that.

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        It’s interesting. I have a remote place (not where I live) in the least populated, podunkest county in the state (which is saying something). And we were still able to get fibre and 50Mbps out there (and it could be higher, but not really worth the extra money since it’s rarely used).

        Still within a couple hours of a big city, though. Guessing you’re further away than that, or something?

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          The 500kbps was 15 minutes outside of a metro area of 2.5 million lol

          It was decades of CenturyLink making sure no one else moved in on their turf.

          Where I’m at now the fiber is a couple of miles away and no cable, but 8Mbps feels lightning fast after CenturyLink lol

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        That’s enough to watch exactly one 1080p 30fps stream on YouTube and literally nothing else.

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        Mbps = Mb/s = Megabits per second.

        MBps = MB/s = Megabytes per second.

        The p is just the /. It’s the capital or lowercase B that makes the difference.

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            As a computer engineer, I had better know. And don’t get me started on MiB vs MB

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                kB = kilobytes = 1000 bytes

                MB = megabytes = 1000 kB

                kiB = kibibytes = 1024 bytes

                MiB = mibibytes = 1024 kiB

                Generally on hard drive/ssd capacity it will be listed in GiB (Gibibytes). This is the reason a 1 Terabyte drive is actually something like 931 GB showing in your system. Because your system uses GiB and the manufacturer uses GB.

                1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes

                1GiB = 1,073,741,824 bytes

                1 GB =~ 0.931 GiB

                Edit: I had it backwards, it is fixed now

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        • 3.125MB/s to 12.5MB/s

        He is right though on megabits to megabytes. Internet speed is advertised in bits/s where files and transfer speeds are usually shown in software as megabytes/s

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      I have symmetric 1Gbps and do a LOT of data transfer (compared to 99.99% of people). And even then I rarely really would need or even notice more than 100Mbps.

      For most people, in the real world, why is 100Mbps “very slow”?