I just think the novelty of these type of displays was up in the 90s, It’s time for an upgrayedd. I propose leprechauns flying up and down the river wearing water jet packs, shooting people with their Chicago-style hot dog cannons would be more with the times. What’s your idea?

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    Fun fact: It’s actually beneficial that they do this because they use Gatorade which has electrolytes and as we all know, that’s what the plants crave.

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    I don’t remember the comedian, but I remember the joke:

    “If they can dye it green for St. Patrick’s Day, why can’t they dye it blue the other days of the year?”

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    The crowds it attracts today still are huge. What do you mean the novelty has worn down? I have lived in the area since 2012 and I still haven’t gone down to see this because I don’t want to deal with the crowds.

    On another note, I guess I’ll be there in a jiffy if they shot me with an Italian beef - wet (not from the river) and lots of giardiniera.

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    Head over to the unpopular opinion group, you’re not asking a question, you’re stating an opinion.

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    As a Dubliner (Ireland, not one of the many Dublins across the pond), I must say that Americans are really weird about Paddy’s Day. We have a large parade in Dublin and smaller ones in smaller cities, and then those of us who have kids ho to family fairs, and the rest for a pint at the local. We leave the city centre to the tourists who get shitfaced on overpriced, prepoured Guinness for no good reason. And even though we did some weird things with our river (the time in the slime), we never dyed the Liffey green.

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      Americans look for any reason to get shitfaced. Ask anyone what Cinco de Mayo is about about. Most wont have any clue.

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        which, you’d think, hey France, we hate the french (which is hilarious considering the Statue of Liberty and La Fayette)… Mexicans beating the French should be easy to recall for us.

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          The whole French thing is so goddamn funny, from an outside perspective - I mean, France is basically one of the few major countries the USA never fought a land or proxy war against - their only war was the Quasi war which was solely smaller naval battles and was clearly the US fault. And France was almost always willing to back the US…while the US let them down countless times.

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            while the US let them down countless times.

            ehhhh… I dunno man there was this whole indochina thing :|

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                  How did the French fight against the US there? How did the French who literally just lost the war there (not without US pressure to not “extend” the war) let the US down there?

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            Have you never met an American? Look at it from the perspective of an inferiority complex and you may begin to understand.

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          It’s the lack of curiosity or effort to act on it. If I have a question, it’s moments before I open the phone and check for an answer. I always get annoyed at people who ask me questions instead of doing it themselves.

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      St. Patrick’s Day in America has always been more of a celebration of Irish-American immigrant culture than it is of Ireland itself.

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      I mean… Other than them dying that shit green none of that sounds that different from what goes on over here in general

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        Can’t argue with that. I never really paid attention to Paddy’s Day while I was in the US, so all I have to go by are the news reports (which may be a bit sensationalist).

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      We have a lot of people who live far from their country of origin, so they get really excited when they get to celebrate their heritage and get a special national holiday. Then of course the rest of us Americans love a good time and excuse to party, so we love celebrating alongside them. It’s all in good fun. When I was younger, there was a whole neighborhood that went off the hook for stuff like St. Patrick’s Day, Mardi Gras, and stuff like that. My friends and I would always be so excited to go down there and party it up. It’s a really good time for everyone involved.

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      In Liverpool, which prides itself on its Liverpool roots, Paddy’s Day is one of the days to avoid town and most of the pubs for me. Absolute carnage. The other ones to avoid are Grand National weekend, particularly Ladies Day, and Mother’s Day.

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          It’s a drinking city. People go out for a family meal, get pissed up, things get raucous, fights happen. It’s not everyone, but if you work in bars it’s one of the nights you dread, especially in the rougher places where the fights kick off. I worked in one of the roughest city centre bars many years back and the fights between women were way worse than the ones between men. Absolutely vicious… And I say that as a woman btw.

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      Here in the states St. Patrick’s day is more about Mad Sweeney from American Gods or The Lucky Charms mascot than it is about the guy who invented the Shamrock as a Catholic mnemonic. Go to your local department store like Target or Walmart and look for St. Patrick’s Day seasonals and you’ll find four-leaf clovers where shamrocks should be.

      We can’t tell the difference and don’t really care. We’ll just take our kids to McDonalds to get a minty milkshake.

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        The whole French thing is so goddamn funny, from an outside perspective - I mean, France is basically one of the few major countries the USA never fought a land or proxy war against - their only war was the Quasi war which was solely smaller naval battles and was clearly the US fault. And France was almost always willing to back the US…while the US let them down countless times.

        A vile, “minty” milkshake.

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    This causes no harm to the wildlife and is a fun celebration. People here are always talking about “let people enjoy things” when that thing is some counter-culture thing. Well, I say let people enjoy things, even when that thing is a mainstream holiday. Have some fun. Let loose.

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    A recent article asking the same thing on Tampa Bay’s activities

    While there doesn’t seem to be obvious red flags of harm, something doesn’t feel right to me about dumping chemicals into the environment that eventually break down. The article says the company making this particular dye warns about it in higher quantities or letting it become concentrated in places downstream, and wearing protective equipment when handling the larger amounts. How much of that is only legalize to protect from misuse vs. actual tested issues?

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      I just think that color green is ugly and looks like industrial waste

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        it’s how you make more ninja turtles though, and lord knows we need them now more than ever!

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          Chicago is the only city other than New York that makes enough pizza to support growing teenager mutant ninja turtles.

          But New York probably has more sewer rats trained in karate.

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      That was hard to read, and amounts to “It’s safe and used responsibly but people are scared of color green so it must be bad.”

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      It’s wasteful and a bad look, but many things are only hazardous in high concentrations. Even a tanker full of milk getting dumped into a small lake could cause mass die offs. The PPE is probably more about preventing it from being breathed in or getting in their mouths. You can check out the SDS here.

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      What about all the piss and poop in the river? Fish can’t be trained to use a bathroom, so they just defecate in the water, 24x7. Gross!

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      The deadly chemical known as Dihydrogen Monoxide absolutely fills that river, you know? Might want to keep your distance.

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    I don’t care so much about the novelty. I want to know what impacts this has on the environment.

    I assume it’s been studied to be non-toxic for fish. Or at least I hope it has. But what about other effects it might have? Does it significantly reduce visibility and impact the ecosystem in that way? Some other effects?

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      Pretty sure you can eat Fluorescein with no ill effects other than turning your piss dayglo. It’s very widely used as a ‘non-toxic’ tracer dye so I’d imagine studies have been done.

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        Have they done studies on this scale? Probably. But still a valid question. If nothing else it kind of desensitizes us to pouring green sludge into rivers. Fuck do I know, I’d be freaked out if I was a fish. I’d also eat a incandescent neon green fish, but that’s on the fish.

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            Doing something isn’t the same as studying it, though. If I were to eat a few litres of ice-cream that’s not a study on the effects of excessive ice-cream consumption, that’s just someone eating an unhealthy amount of ice-cream. People do stupid things all the time with the excuse that that’s how it’s always been done.

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                Effects includea nausea, loss of motor control, and vomiting. And singing. But mainly vomiting.

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          I’d be freaked out if I was a fish

          Honestly this is the thing I’m most worried about. I have little doubt that it’s been studied to be non-toxic. I said as much in my first comment. I’m more worried about more-difficult-to-study effects like on the behaviour of the fish.

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            I mean there’s too few of them left to make a good sample size anyway so fuck it let’s dye the river like it’s potato famine o clock

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      This stuff is regularly used to mark water flows that someone wants to trace, for example when a stream disappears underground and it’s unclear where it joins the watershed again. It’s assume there’s not much to it.

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      Well I live near an actual toxic river that has been cleaning up lately. I just think dying it green makes it look gross, maybe it’s time to projection map it green or give everyone green tinted glasses so then everything is green and you don’t have to make the river an oooz color.

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        Lol sounds like a you problem. It’s all biodegradable and good fun. It actually does look cool. Long time Chicagoans and new visitors still like it. Sorry you don’t.

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          Ah yes, a perfectly safe dye… that has warning labels on it indicating it’s a bad idea to use a lot and it’s toxic when concentrated. Yep, pefectly safe!

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            Anything is toxic when concentrated enough. Fish food kills fish at high volumes; fish kill humans at high volumes.

            What’s crazy is there are really good ways to dilute things–namely using a high volume of water…

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    leprechauns flying up and down the river wearing water jet packs, shooting people with their Chicago-style hot dog cannons

    I mean, they’re not mutually-exclusive. You can do both.