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Adding to the mountain of evidence that Israel is engaged in a genocidal war on the Gaza Strip, Al Jazeera on Thursday aired footage of what the news outlet reported was an Israeli drone targeting four Palestinians in Khan Younis last month.
Those killed by the unmanned aerial vehicle in the rubble of the southern Gaza city appear to be unarmed teenagers or young men. According to a translation of the coverage, they were not identified in the reporting.
Tariq Kenney-Shawa, Al-Shabaka’s U.S. policy fellow, said: “This is among the worst footage I’ve seen. Not only were these boys clearly unarmed and present no threat whatsoever, but they were struck multiple times even after stumbling/crawling away. There is no way they could have been considered combatants. This is unreal.”
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Disgusting. Justice for Palestine.
Just imagine controlling the drone and thinking that this is ok
And no justice for others who were savagely killed for going to a concert. Or going for an ice cream, or buying groceries on the market.
I think they had their justice about 29,000 deaths ago, if lives are considered equal.
Or if killing a human could suddenly undo killing one.
It doesn’t and that’s the saddest thing. But with some people you simply can’t reason.
Regardless of your political views… The fact you can watch civilians being blown up and be like “justice” is pretty raw dude. I think you need to have a think about how you relate to the world… and other humans.
Also that’s not what I said. Guy above me asked for justice. And I said justice for all innocent people. But apparently no, you Hamas apologists don’t accept idea of innocent people in Israel.
The whole “but do you condemn Hamas?!” thing is long passed my dude.
That you’d even mention it is pretty funny and makes me think you’re just a troll and not actually a Zionist.
This is an untenable position. There is no good side, but Israel is committing atrocities beyond recognition.
You’re a disgrace. A perfect fit in Israel, I bet you’d be buddies with fuckhisfaceyahoo or you wish you were.
Am a disgrace for wanting justice for all innocent killed. Hm, okay buddy, maybe it’s time to take your meds or gets yourself checked.
If you wanted justice you would recognize the apartheid, that Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing that has escalated to genocide, advocate for a permanent ceasefire, and a solution to the conflict where both Israelis and Palestinians have equal rights.
Who said that? I’d be happy for the people who did Oct 7th to be brought to justice. I doubt you’d say the same for the criminals in Israel’s leadership and military.
I doubt you’d say the same.
Despicable and deplorable
Can’t imagine war being any other way.
Hi, resident American combat vet here. This is egregious by any standard but a genocidal regime. It’s a pretty clear rule, if they aren’t armed or uniformed, you don’t shoot them.
If it were like that, it wouldn’t be as bad. But internet is full of videos proving otherwise, USA soldiers included.
Oh? There are videos of US soldiers shooting civilians just walking around without guns and in civilian clothes?
Please send them to the Pentagon and NYT. There’s some people who would be very interested in them.
You’re a disgrace. A perfect fit in Israel, I bet you’d be buddies with fuckhisfaceyahoo or you wish you were.
So I am despicable for thinking war is disgusting. Thanks I suppose. Goes to show how all these Hamas supporters think.
People are replying to you because you are trying to downplay genocide. You also just called people getting mad at children dying as Hamas supporters. You are being obtuse.
The other way would be that they weren’t genocidal and maybe the problem wouldn’t have happened in the first place. Israel and Hamas are both despicable groups but there’s a clear instigator in Israel.
NSFL(Death + Gore): Video mirror
Bombings at 1:00, 1:50 and 2:15
Most moral army in the world™.
“God said this is mine.”
So what’s the solution here? When walking down the road with three buddies, skulk around in a combative stagger formation in case the IDF thinks you’re combatants and hopefully 3 of you make it to cover in time?
Apparently wouldn’t work since they used two hits anyway.
What, you sayin you don’t stutter step and leapfrog on the way to the bar with your buddies just in case a bomb is coming?
Only on the way back from the bar.
> skulk around in a combative staggerCreative writing. Most people use the word “walk”.I don’t think you read that comment correctly.
You’re right I thought he was implying they walked like that. Had a few too many Hasbara replies today.
How come no US politicians, democrat or otherwise, include removing support for Israel as part of their campaign?
And piss of the Jews?
There are plenty of American Jews that don’t support what Israel is doing.
Does it matter? Support or oppose people are being killed by missiles from drones not unkind words tossed from across the ocean.
Piss off “the Jews”? Can we please condemn Israels violence without antisemitism?
I don’t worry about pissing off white people in America by pointing out the shitty things they collectively were responsible for in the pre civil war era even though not every white person in the 1800s owned slaves or supported slavery.
How are we almost six months into this genocide and people are still conflating Jewishness with Zionism?
Most Zionists are not Jews, and many Jews are not Zionists, in fact some Jews are fervently anti-Zionist.
I’ll tell you the nasty truth. You’re right, but if a politician ran a campaign to strip Israel of all their benefits of American Exceptionalism they will be crushed in the polls. They won’t just lose they will be decimated.
Why?
Because despite what you say, many of those Jews you are referring to are actually Zionists once cutting off the hand that feeds their homeland is threatened.
Non-Jews need to understand that unlike Christianity there is a level of identity politics steeped in nationalism, religion and culture are all so heavily intertwined it’s hard to break through. I’m speaking from experience. 3 of my kids are Jewish.
I feel sorry for those sane Israelis that are powerless as their insanely right wing government kills any hope they have for a safe future thanks to destroying an already tenuous relationship with all their neighbours in the ME.
https://www.jpr.org.uk/reports/conflict-israel-and-gaza-what-do-jews-uk-think
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/
The majority of US/UK jews are both pro-Israel and not against what is going on in Gaza
I couldn’t find a worldwide survey but it doesn’t seem altogether unfair to conflate the jewish religion with the worldwide bastion of that religion any more than it would be wrong to conflate Catholics and the pope. This does NOT mean its ok to harm people based on what they believe. Adding to the sum total of harm does nothing to alleviate the suffering in Gaza.
Sure.
Who cares about them, really?
They’re not more important than anyone else on this planet.
Im starting to think that what a lot of people learned from the holocaust wasn’t ‘never let this happen again’, but ‘never let this happen to the jews again’. The people of gaza are being wiped out because we, the west, can’t hold a Jewish state accountable for their actions, because that might make us nazis in the eyes of morons and their propagandists.
because that might make us nazis in the eyes of morons and their propagandists.
You mean the Israeli state?
The many faces of totalitarianism; we need to discuss this better, or have representatives who can at very least acknowledge that. By the way, none of these people seem to have at hearth the peace of the region. Until than, our hands are tied.
Idk if you have participated in the us political system much but like there’s a lot of Jews
Going against them and potentially being branded anti-Semitic is political suicide
I think we can move past this while fighting actual antisemitism, which may be on the rise for all I know.
Acnshually, jews
Calm down, Kanye.
He’s got a point. AIPAC i one of the strongest lobby organization in the US. They make and break politicians all the time.
And they’ve been very successful in convincing everyone that Israel = Jews; so that any criticism of Israel is defacto antisemitic (nevermind that Palestinians are a Semitic people).
We should be clear that Netanyahu and the far-right fundamentalist Likud party in Israel is the problem.
Putting the star of David on their flag was
propaganda.
If you think AIPAC represents all Jews, you are absolutely an antisemite. No surprise you think Kanye “I like Hitler” West has “got a point”.
Criticising the Israel lobby is fine, but maybe don’t blame Jews for everything Israel does…
Odd phrasing in that first bit 💀
Bruh the 4th guy just kept walking at the same pace like he already knew IDF was gonna send the third strike just to kill him too.
State of shock, the human can’t do anything else than what he was doing. It’s a survive strategy of the brain. This alone shows the psychological impact of a genocide on the people in a milionian of second.
“Drone, say KILL ALL HUMANS”
Drone: “KILL ALL HUMANS”.
Then they had brunch.
There was a 2nd explosion right after the 1st was that a 2nd missile or an IED?
Another israeli bomb you can see it flying from the top left of the frame.
Here’s a slow mo compilation with red circles: NSFL (Gore + Death): https://imgur.com/a/e1XWdfY
Credit to this Twitter user
Thanks for pointing that out its hard to spot with the rubble in the background.
If you’re interested, I found a clearer post, I updated my previous comment, it shows the bombs pretty well.
Everyone needs to see this footage that is nowhere in the article. Everyone SHOULD see this its obvious murder without justification. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEOcBkoz6HM
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What’s the context? Why were they targetted?
You’ve seen the context for months now. They were born in Gaza. That’s the context.
Ok, so you believe they were just random targets and nothing significant happened before this footage to make them become targets?
Have they been identified?
Wouldn’t be the first time.
That’s true. On the other hand, a lot of propaganda is constructed at the limit of what’s believable.
They don’t bother to identify them, if they are male between the ages of 16 and 50 they label them a potential combatant. They have been bombing civilians indiscriminately for years, but they have upped the intensity to levels unseen in years.
Right, so why let other two million walk normally?
They have killed other people just for walking around.
They have not! Only those who have done suspicious things, like standing in a bread line
You mean the ones they’re starving?
For being Palestinian
Israel is killing everyone who lives in Gaza so they can take their land
I’m not trying to be dense here, but is there a better way to conquer and take land? If taking the land is the strategic objective, how else should they proceed other than to clear it off its current populace?
If that’s their goal, aren’t they progressing rather slowly? Gaza’s population is growing, not diminishing.
Yeah that’s a bit hyperbolic. They just want to force them out. Just a little ethnic cleansing.
No no no they just want to kill Hamas. If they kill everyone they see, then chances are they will eventually kill all Hamas as well. /s
They just want to force them out. Just a little ethnic cleansing.
Yeah, that’s certainly easier to imagine.
Gazas population isn’t currently growing, over 32,000 Palestinians have been killed since October
“Intent to destroy in part or whole”. Number doesn’t matter, and consequently neither does not keeping up with population growth it’s still genocide.
Israel was founded on Settler Colonialism and ethnic cleansing, both fundamental to Zionism
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 culminating to Plan Dalet in 1948, more details here.
You can learn more in the Apartheid Reports
B’TSelem Report with quick Explainer
Then they are doing a shit job, considering almost 2 million of them remains. Either that or that’s not the goal.
Eradicating 1.5%, more than 3% injured of the population of Gaza, destroying more than 35% of the civilian buildings in Gaza, man-made starvation. And now a planned assault on Rafah, where a big chunk of the population is living in nightmarish conditions. Is this what you call little?
And believe me the actual number of the casualties is much bigger, considering that there isn’t an independent verification of the direct and indirect casualties. I am sure far rights in Israel are elated.
Genocide is not the goal, but we have been able to accurately predict Israel’s next action every step of the way by simply looking at the script for what a genocidal regime would do. But genocide is not Israel’s goal. It just looks that way. Maybe a weird coincidence.
Why should I believe you or anyone, and not people who are on the ground there. We hear aid is provided, we hear aid is taken away from civilians by Hamas beating people, we hear people selling aid packages to others civilians. We hear all sorts of things. But all you people do is ignore whatever narrative you don’t like and focus on one thing. By that measure you can say USA is killing innocent civilians when they dropped that aid package which crushed some of them.
We hear aid is provided, we hear aid is taken away from civilians by Hamas beating people, we hear people selling aid packages to others civilians. We hear all sorts of things.
Which of these potentially terrible things negates what has been done to the people of Gaza? The destruction of their infrastructure - housing, universities, hospitals. The killing of civilians. The living conditions. The starvation.
So there is some, but not nearly enough aid. So some bad actors are taking advantage of the unimaginably fucked up situation there. How does that change the fact that Israel is at best using collective punishment (a war crime) and at worst committing genocide?
You don’t have to believe me, but I’m happy to show my work:
The state of Israel has always rejected the one-state solution and the right-of-return. (It makes political sense, as the Jews would be outnumbered in their own state in a few decades.) It has also rejected or sabotaged a two-state solution by expanding settlements, a process which has ramped up in recent months, so there’s nowhere for a second state to exist. Thus, the people of Palestine cannot live in Israel, and they cannot live in Palestine. No other nations would take that many refugees, so they also cannot leave. The, uhh, remaining solution is to kill them, and the IDF feels no compunction about doing exactly that. For decades, genocide hasn’t been the avowed goal of the state of Israel, just the inescapable conclusion of a cruel logic.
That brings us up to last October. So what would a genocidal regime do in Israel’s place, if it wanted to exterminate a group of people with enough plausible deniability to avoid triggering intervention by the rest of the world? Cut off incoming food, water, and energy? Check, Israel has done that. Contaminate the groundwater? Check. Destroy the energy, sanitary, and transportation infrastructure? Check. Render civilian homes destroyed or unlivable, and destroy businesses? Check. Destroy the health care system? Check. Drive the population toward the border with progressive waves of attacks? Gaza City -> Khan Younis -> Rafah, check.
And all of this, after several Israeli government officials stated explicitly that the goal is, at least, ethnic cleansing.
Hitler didn’t eradicate the Jewish people. Are you saying that means he wasn’t actually trying?
Nope. Am saying that your comment is wrong. If Israel was trying to do systematic destruction number of deaths would be far higher in such densely populated area. And it’s not.
Oh well it’s ok then I guess, they haven’t built gas chambers so it’s not efficient. Two missiles for 4 people really isn’t cost-effective, I see what you mean.
In your opinion, how efficient does it have to be before they’re trying to “systematically destroy” Palestine?
If the bombs a bullets don’t get them the famine certainly will.
Genocide. Genocide.
The goal is to kill every single Palestinian so that is why they were targeted
They cannot say because they were a threat. Unless they had intel on who these men were? But by the looks of it I can’t imagine any person who is a militant would be walking like these men.
You people are brain dead beyond belief. “thEy dOnT wAlk liKe miLitAnts” lmao
Everyone needs to watch this instead of keeping track of Ukraine. Swear to god Hamas attack was a Russian distraction tactic. The whos and the whats and the whens and the wheres on Israel-Palestine is the new thing. Who cares about some old war in Ukraine? We have moved on, it’s back to the jews again.
Wag the dog. And nobody sees it. BTW taking odds on Grump winning the election outright. When they give them another chance you know they reeeally want them to win, right?
